Fish Stock, Anyone have these?

[Kinetic]

I'm going to list some fish I want to stock my 82 gallon display. It's mostly SPS dominated, lots of caves, 30" x 25" x 25" display. The whole system, however is more than 180g, since I have a 30G prop tank, 50G sump, and 30G refugium all hooked up to it. So these will be the only fish in the 180g system, so I think bioload won't be a limiting factor, just compatability and space.

1x Bellus Angelfish (female)
1x Sunburst Anthia (can I get more than 1?)
1x Radiant Wrasse (peaceful?)
2x Ocellaris clownfish
1x Scooter Dragonet (about half a year later for established pods)
1x Blue stripe pipefish


Questions:
1. Overall how does it look?
2. Do I have too many fish for the tank?
3. Can I get more than one sunburst anthia? Will 2 be a good number?
4. Radiant wrasse reef safe and peaceful?
5. Dragonet a good small dragonet for this tank? Should be brimming with pods before I introduce it. I think they're neat, and will stir the top of my sand bed (very thin sand bed, about 1/2" just for looks).
6. Will the blue stripe get along with these fish?

My tank will have about 40x turnover at least, after headloss has been calculated for sump return. Should give these guys quite a workout =) I also have an ASM G3 with recirc / gate valve mod which should pull plenty of skimmate. There will only be 250watt HQI and 2x24w T5 actinic lighting, so not too bright for the bellus / sunburst which aren't shallow fish.

Thanks!

 

[marrone]

1. I think your fish sellection is fine but you never know with pygmy angel if they're are going to go after a coral or not. So it's always a crap shoot with them. You may want to rethink about the pipefish as they can be hard to keep and the flow maybe a problem with them. Otherwise the list looks pretty good and is no where over stocked.

2&3. The list looks fine and it's not over stocked and you could probably add a couple more anthias without a problem.

4. Radiant wrasse is a peaciful fish and will eat small snails and pods. I wouldn't worry about any corals but it will eat worms and small feather duster. Otherwise a it's reef safe.

5. Get your Pods poplulation up and a Dragonet should do fine. You can get the population going by buying a culture kit or getting some Chaeto from some one Refug as they should have pods in it. Some Dragonet will start to eat flake or other food but it's hard to keep them alive on that.

6. I don't think you'll have a problem with the other fish and the pipefish, though the Radiant wrasse could cause it problems. A bigger problem maybe the flow in the tank as it maybe to strong for a pipefish, that and they're not the most hardies fish around.

 

[Bret61081]

I dont think you'll have any problems with the bellus angel. I have never heard of them picking at Corals since they are a deeper water species. But I do agree with the pipe fish. You might want to try a Janns Pipe fish isnted of the blue stripe. They are much bigger and better swimmers. Ive seen a few tanks with the Janns in them with few problems as long as there are enoguh pods to keep them happy!

 

[Kinetic]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7044248#post7044248 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
1. I think your fish sellection is fine but you never know with pygmy angel if they're are going to go after a coral or not. So it's always a crap shoot with them. You may want to rethink about the pipefish as they can be hard to keep and the flow maybe a problem with them. Otherwise the list looks pretty good and is no where over stocked

6. I don't think you'll have a problem with the other fish and the pipefish, though the Radiant wrasse could cause it problems. A bigger problem maybe the flow in the tank as it maybe to strong for a pipefish, that and they're not the most hardies fish around.

1. The angel is not a pygmy (centrogype), it's a Genicanthus which are purely planktivores. I'll never get a pygmy angel again after my flame angel destroyed all my montipora.

6. I've seen people's pipefish in SPS tanks swimming into a powerhead (Seio 820) before, catching food that shoots out from it. Somehow they are much hardier than everyone says. All experiences with them have been that way, but all the books and what people hear say differently. I will take a shot at it =)

For the sunburst, I read they only do well by themselves or else need a GIGANTIC tank to house more than one. Is that true? Or can I have three like if I had a barletts anthias?

thanks guys. Anyone else?

 

[marrone]

You right about the Bellus, I was thinking about another fish and got it mixed up with that one. :hmm4:

Every Pipefish that I've seen kept has been in tanks without a lot of flow and without any aggressive tank mates. A lot of people have been keeping them in their refug which gives them some protection and a good food source.

As for the Sunburst I know people that have keep small groups of 3-5 together without any problems. As for tanks sizes they where kept in fairly large size tanks of atleast 6' long.

 

[Kinetic]

ok. I will probably try the pipefish in the display tank, and if it's just doing terribly I"ll move him to the fuge. The fuge is pretty big too.

The sunburst anthias are big too, they get to be 5 inches =( I don't think I want so many 5" fish in my 80 gallon. I'll probably just stick to one.

thanks for the help!

 

[marrone]

How big is your fug?

 

[Kinetic]

30G

 

[blstravler]

I have one sunburst in a 180 reef. He lives in a 2 foot area and never leaves it. So you might be able to do 2. I would try and introduce them at different ends of the tank so they take up different territories, if you are lucky.

My LFS had 4 in a 1800 gal reef. They are down to 2 now. The got large fast and became very territorial. The tank is amazing around 150 athias in it total, a school of 8 pictilus, also the only tank I have seen Tuka's live in.

 

[Kinetic]

wow amazing.


I think i'll just stick to one sunburst then =)

 

[FishPharm]

The Bellus is an excellent choice. If not a pair, then pick up on the female. Great color. Very peaceful, getting along with all my other tank inhabitants.

 

[Kinetic]

i'll be getting a female. my tank isn't large enough for a pair =(