Fragging looses color

[ryanrid]

When I make frags and add to my ft which is incorporated with my main system I loose color mainly dulling in my dt for about 2 weeks. Is this due to the glue or coral stress? Anything I can do to minimize this? Color comes back after about 2 week usually.

Thanks
Ryan

 

[batt600]

What light are you using is it diffrent from your frag tank

 

[JustinM]

I'm sure it is due to coral stress, you kind of in a way just broke an arm off of it. The frags themselves go into recovery mode, at least from my understanding, maybe why they don't lose color.

 

[ryanrid]

What light are you using is it diffrent from your frag tank

both are ATI T5 units just different sizes, but it is the display that looses color.

I'm sure it is due to coral stress, you kind of in a way just broke an arm off of it. The frags themselves go into recovery mode, at least from my understanding, maybe why they don't lose color.

I understand that but i loose color in all of my SPS not just the ones fragged.

 

[Felixc395]

As long as the color comes back, odds are it's from light intensity or from adjusting. Color can come and go when a coral is introduced, so don't worry.

ATI's are quite bright and PAR monsters! So when you say corals lose color, do you mean fade and turn lighter? If they turn lighter, it's most likely that they are shocked by the light, fade, adjust, and return to their normal color as their zooanthelle levels come back up.

 

[ryanrid]

As long as the color comes back, odds are it's from light intensity or from adjusting. Color can come and go when a coral is introduced, so don't worry.

ATI's are quite bright and PAR monsters! So when you say corals lose color, do you mean fade and turn lighter? If they turn lighter, it's most likely that they are shocked by the light, fade, adjust, and return to their normal color as their zooanthelle levels come back up.

ok seems what i am asking is not coming across clearly.

1 have 50 setablished frags/colonies in my tank, when i make some frags off these all 50 of the frags loose some color. The light does not change nothing else changes except the frags being glued with super glue and going into the frag tank. They are fading not browning.

 

[Felixc395]

How deep is the frag tank? Are they the same distance from the lights in both tanks? Are both systems plumbed together?

 

[ryanrid]

How deep is the frag tank? Are they the same distance from the lights in both tanks?

that is irrelevant as i am losing color in the DT

 

[Felixc395]

ok seems what i am asking is not coming across clearly.

1 have 50 setablished frags/colonies in my tank, when i make some frags off these all 50 of the frags loose some color. The light does not change nothing else changes except the frags being glued with super glue and going into the frag tank. They are fading not browning.

This makes it sound like you're fragging from your DT to your frag tank. The same questions pertain and are relevant, are the systems plumbed together, so we can eliminate water quality. And how far are they from the bulbs in each setup? This is the most important question if your frags are losing color. Another would be if you run ULNS or not and if you feed your corals in the DT.

 

[ryanrid]

my ft which is incorporated with my main system

I loose color mainly dulling in my dt

i loose color in all of my SPS not just the ones fragged.

these are the reasons i say it is irrelevant, how does the lighting of my frag tank (in the same system) make my acro in the DT go dull (ones which were not even fragged)

I run zeovit and in stage 3 so ULNS with 8 feeds/day.

 

[Felixc395]

Well then I'm stumped. It mus be stress. I've never heard anything like this, especially when you can certainly eliminate almost all factors in your case. As long as the colors come back in two weeks things are fine. Two weeks is a very fast turn around period for full color to return. Mine take up to three to four weeks....

Well you're absolutely doing everything right! Good luck!

 

[Bigcefa]

i see what your saying they are not understanding... hes saying all corals are fine with color but when he makes a new frag glues it and puts in the frag tank which is plumbed in his DT every single sps coral in the DT loses color. Honestly sounds weird to me what kind of glue are you using? I would say if it only happens when you frag then well i would have to say something is happening there are you dosing or doing anything else when you cut frags? Maybe chemical, are you running carbon?

 

[ryanrid]

i see what your saying they are not understanding... hes saying all corals are fine with color but when he makes a new frag glues it and puts in the frag tank which is plumbed in his DT every single sps coral in the DT loses color. Honestly sounds weird to me what kind of glue are you using? I would say if it only happens when you frag then well i would have to say something is happening there are you dosing or doing anything else when you cut frags? Maybe chemical, are you running carbon?

i use super glue from the hardware store, i usually make 20 frags at a time.
Zeovit carbon is run via a FBF and is changed every 4 weeks. no changes in my dosing.

 

[Bigcefa]

idk man this is a new one for me, has this always happend? Have you tried to change the glue? I dont think its the glue but i just dont where else to look to here

 

[marthin]

definitely sounds chemical, have you tried fragging with any other material like milliput? and see if it there is any change?
When I did Zeo, I found my system to be very fragile to chemical changes

 

[SputnikNYC]

I would say, it's either stress from fraging or the glue leaks chemicals! I think it's the glue, i frag occasionally and corals don't change color, tho they are pale enough