Getting that color??

allsps40

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I have been doing a lot of research into sps and bring out colors. At the top of the list seems a ULNS. MY tank is always 0 nitrate 0 phose (undetectable on API and Hanna tests). I use only a good skimmer and fuge. I do have a small problem with red turf algae and some bubble algae, but at bad at all. So I must have some nutrients in there of some sort. Keeping certain colors has always been hard for me. Mostly purples and blues and green but only in certain coral. I currently use RC and dose potassium iodine and Kent strontium/molybdenum which also has potassium. I just started this been dosing iodine for a while. Dosing AA and Kent a & b for ca and alk. It seems at a lot of people dosing AA also dose a carbon source, vodka as well. From what I have read vodka is used to reduce nitrates and phos to 0 ppm. And this also brings out great colors in corals. Is it worth dosing vodak to help get the color even if I dont have a nutrient problem?
More tank info
40 gallon tank 20 gallon sump/fuge
SWC/Octo NW110 skimmer
250 watt Phoenix 14k on an Icecap
reactor running carbon and sometimes GFO
ph 8.0
alk 9
ca 400-420
mag 1300 (checked a few weeks ago, stays stable)
nitrate 0 ppm on API
phose 0 ppm on API and Hanna
 
This guide endeavors to assist you with the ever popular SPS coral. This was written by member Shadowramy @ ReefCentral and it explains specific ideas and strategies in which you can do to affect the color of your corals. This assumes you have a more then basic understanding of water parameters in your tank.
In the past I have been asked a lot about coral colorization as well as wanted to satisfy my own curiosity about specific methods to achieving certain colors. Usually I am asked, How do you get good colors? Which I then ask, what specific color are you looking to enhance? Over the past several months I have really worked on tweaking colors and what is needed to get certain colors. I have done my own testing as well as seen a lot of others tanks and what they have done to achieve certain colors. I think I finally have a basic map for those who are interested.
Please note: I am assuming that you meet the minimum suggested standards to keeping SPS; strong lighting, calcium at the appropriate levels, strong skimming and live rock.


Yellows
Highly dependent on Nitrate and PO4 levels. Of course all SPS colors are highly dependent on lack of N and P so I wanted to start with probably the easiest color to get, yellow. Yellows are sort of you baseline; yellows will tell you a lot about what is going on in your tank, what is needed and what is overdosed. Nitrate and/or PO4 reduction is most important, either through technical means such as nitrate/phosphate reducers or biologically through DSB, Carbon dosing and/or water changes and fuges. Basically, if you want to do SPS, I would suggest starting with an acropora that is yellow. If you can get it to say yellow for several months, you should be ready for something else.


Greens
Greens would be the next easiest color to tweak. Most green coloration can be achieved through the addition of an Iron Concentrate (Kents is what I use, however Iron is Iron). You must be very careful with Iron because it is also an Algae accelerator; this is why it is so important for you to get your yellows colors first (your N and P will be lowered).
Additionally, I use my yellows as indicators for my greens and blues. You’ll notice a deficiancy if your greens are brown color or they are paling in color. I start off by dosing Iron at about 1 drop per 50 usg twice a week and take note of what happens, color changes, Algae growth, until my yellow acroporas display a green shimmer (it won’t be a solid green but a shimmer of a green/yellow).
Please note, a sign of overdosing is a darkening of tissue, when this happens you have added too much iron or too much iron is being added. Another sign of overdosing is Algae growth, stop immediately and possibly do a water change if necessary. Like everything else reef, go slowly.

Blues and some purples
This is mainly for blues but I have found is can also have an effect on purples. The supplement for this is Potassium Iodide Concentrate or Lugol’s solution, ESV Potassium Iodide Concentrate will also work; don’t just get something that says Potassium because that is a little different. Dosing should be done when blue colors become less intense. Again, using yellow corals as indicators, stop dosing when yellow corals display a green shimmer.


Reds/Pinks and some Purples
Primarily for coloring reds and pinks in Montiporas, Pocilloporas, Birdsnest, other Stys and Seriatoporas. The supplement is Potassium (not potassium iodide). If you are using a high potassium salt mix such as Oceanic, Tropical Marine Pro and you are doing regular water changes, you are more than likely not going to need to supplement this much.
For dosing you can use your monitporas, especially caps as indicators. Supplementing is required when Montiporas display slower growth and appear washed out to grey appearance. Indicators on Stys and Pocs are when they look like they have been exposed to air. Polyps are completely withdrawn and colors are light. Other indicators of potassium deficiency is when the pinks turn into a light brown and when acroporas loose their color and get lighter and pale. A major potassium deficiency is seen when tissue is lost, mostly starting from the base opposed to spotting (patchy look). And overdose can lead to tip burning so don’t mistake tip burn for new growth. Tips burns will be white with no polyps.


Purples
Probably one of the hardest coloration of all acroporas from my experience since it is a combination of several variables.
First and foremost is water clarity, which means Carbon and/or filter socks. I have also had good result from biological filters such as using cryptic zones, which produce seasquirts, sponges and other filter feeding animals. Zeo Sponge Power, which can be used in any system, feeds sponges. Sponges are great because they can filter a mass amount of water for better water clarity.
From what I have noted, increased water clarify will first effect SPS tips but not the complete base. I have seen nana and valida with really nice purple tips but brown/tan/white bases. I have seen the same nana and valida in another’s tanks, which met all other parameters with a full purple from base to tip.
Second being lighting. From my observations of my own tank and others, purples seem to love 420-440nm range light spectrum, those found in actinics and 20K halides. Some of the best purples I have seen are in tanks that have 440nm blue actinics (ATI Blue+, Giessman Actinic) or 20K Halides (Radium, XM 20K).
Third, supplements such as Iodide and Potassium (see blues and Reds/Pinks). Again, make sure your greens are green and yellows are yellow. Your blue should be bright with depth. Iodide will also help if you have tip burn.
These are just my observations through testing and I am sure in the future other factors will be seen and added. Please feel free to comment with your own observations, data is very important to moving forward.
 
i dose Vodka 2 times a week and have never tested my tank for nitrate or phosphate

IMO it improves color and coral growth

I have always noticed better color and growth from dosing 2 times a week

Amino acids IMO are not as effective without carbon dosing

When your tank becomes ULNS and you can tell that by looking at your corals "skin" to see if it's smooth or concrete looking

When the sps start to look concrete then start adding the aminos, but feeding heavier also helps to reduce the concrete look(IE: starvation) and bring the corals back to their original smooth skin look that they should always have

I've had luck with both but it really is a Visual game to tell wether or not what you've done has had any positive affect, always take it slow

i never daily dose because IMO this leads to saturation of the Vodka and then it's good affects start becomming negative so i highly reccomend not daily dosing any tank because you can acheive the same results without the negatives when dosed only 2-3 times a week
 
To me, I've experience that keeping a little NO3 in there will help the coral grow a little better, no more than 5, corals will have enough food for them, just my opinion
My NO3 stay around 0~5 and my Blue, Purple Acros are all doing pretty well
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95accord, I read the same post you copied and pasted, just a few days ago. I also paste it when people ask about color boosting lol. I have been doing what is suggested in the write up for a while now except potassium which I just started today. Not the Kent strontium/molybdenum which has potassium but just a potassium additive, made by Blue Life. My caps are showing the gray colors described in the write up. I have decided to dose vodka but only a 50% dose since I dont have nutrient issues. I just want to increase my bacteria. I will keep this updated as things progress with the vodka.
 
I dont think there are many secrets to getting good color. Managing nutrient import/export, good flow, strong lighting, regular water change schedule. IMO I think a major contributor to good color are mounting the SPS to a fixed location. Dont move them around frequently or leave them on a plug that lets them sway around from current in the tank. Its almost as if the coral knows it hasnt been mounted. Give your SPS stability and they will show you love.
 
I have great nutrient management and have a daily and weekly routine for the tank. I even kept a log in the earlier years. But still cant maintain colors in certain sps. That is my I am researching ways to improve. I feel that carbon dosing to increase bacteria may improve things. Just got the vodka a cheap $6 bottle of 80 proof. going to do a water change then start dosing .1ml for first 3 days then increase to .2ml.
 
Update. Just did a water change and dosed .1ml of 80 proof vodka. The journey starts. I will take a new FTS as a before shot. Pics soon on my vodka dosing. I also replaced and increased my carbon in my reactor as this is supposed to play a roll in ULNS.
 
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Here are the pics.
The vodka and other reef chems I dose.
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The CCA
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FTS before dosing started
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I am on day seven now dosing .2ml starting the .5ml increase tomorrow. I have not seen the bloom yet and I may not. I have seen better PE, started yesterday. I have not seen PE on a few acros in a while so this is nice. Getting a nice green to my neon green cap again. Chaeto has not really seemed to have grown in the last week. :thumbsup:
 
I have added 2 new fish a six line wrasse and a cool blenny. I have also strated to feed a little more.
Do you think if I added this to my tank it would add nutrients LOL
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Just joking sorry. I feel I do have nutrients cause of the algae. Part of the reason I am vodka dosing is to increase bacteria to help feed the sps.
 
Yet another update. Getting even better PE. Slowly see better colors, not a big change as of yet but little improvements here and there. Cotton Candy Algae has started to turn brown, guess this means it is dieing off. Still no real growth from my chaeto. Got rid of all the halimeda from my fuge. I still have not had the bloom. How long does it take when starting Vodka to get a bloom???
dvanacker, my sps look pale from a bleaching issue I had with lights a few weeks ago. I have started to feed more and added 2 more fish. I only feed 3 times a week before and had 3 fish.
 
How long does it take when starting Vodka to get a bloom???
a bacterial bloom is something you would want to avoid

also that "cotton candy" algae as you put it is asparagopsis taxiformis, it extremely invasive and will take over quickly siphon it out probably weekly.
 
Yeah it dose take over quick. It has been a problem in my sand bed for a while, moved up from the fuge. I thought you need to dose until you get a bloom then cut the dose down? Thats what I read.
I have been getting a lot more white haze on my glass that needs to be mag floated daily. Skimmer is more foamy and darker. CCA has not been effected much but chaeto till has not grown much. Had to add a blue yellow tail damsel, it was getting picked on in the nano cube. I am dosing .7ml now and think I am going to cut and maintain .3ml.
 
dose until no3 and pov reach zero the cut in half:beer: that will be your maintinence dose, keep an eye on no3 and po4 if thet start showing more than undetectible up the dose a little. like .25-.5 ml
 
no3 and po4 levels have always been undetectable even before vodka. It says that in the being of the whole post. Thats why I think that I will keep the dose at .3ml. They info on the white haze on my glass or why the cca is still growing but turning brown now??
 
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