help me save my yuma!

bboygraphix

bboygraphix

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i recently acquired this beautiful yuma from another reefer. i have had it in my tank for about 3 weeks and it has never opened fully. it has eaten hand-placed mysid shrimp the past two weeks and reacts physically by closing up when i brush the shrimp across the outter edge of the yuma. within the last two days it's been trying to "crawl" off it's anchor rock and i've tried moving it around and turning off powerheads to help make it happy. hopefully it's not a gonner.

this is how it looked up until two days ago (notice mouth not fully closed. this is about as closed as it gets...)
pinkyuma.jpg


today (i can visibly see the "intestine" like flesh inside the bottom of the yuma where it is separating from the rock)
pinkyuma_sad.jpg


i know i absolutely need to do a full water test, but the only thing i could measure tonight are listed below.

salinity is 1.025
pH 8.2~8.3
temp 80*F
calcium ~400
phosphates 0-0.03

lighting - 400w 20k. tank is 12" deep but the light is about 3' above the tank. seen here:
lbcondo03.jpg



ANY SUGGESTIONS to making this yuma healthy again??? it's such a gem i'd hate to lose it.

thanks,
mark
 
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I would find a place with good water movement that won't blow the edges of the ric up and leave it be. It will settle in once you stop moving it and moving the powerheads. If it does crawl off the rock it will likely leave some of itself behind that will grow into new rics.

I would also ease up on the direct feedings, it doesn't require any direct feeding with proper light and normal tank feeding, but once a week would be alright and will help with growth.
 
thx. i've hardly ever had problems with yumas before... ironically, the only ones ive had trouble with are the pink/red ones. sadly i lost the one in my avatar. all the other yumas around it were thriving as it withered away into clear-white jelly... anyone else have problems with pinks/reds?
 
If I had to guess that 400w M/H is wayyyyyyy to much light unless properly acclimated. When the moth gapes like that chances are it's to late the fact that it's trying to move should give you a good indication your light is way to strong for that Yuma.
 
the tank it came from had a 250w luminarc with 14k that was only 2' away at most.

hopefully it's not a total loss... should i move it to my nanocube that has a 150mh? or is that too much more stress?
 
Low ligh & low flow, that is your only chance & even then it's a long shot. Not trying to be negative but I have seen this happen a hundred time proper acclimation is key to long term success with yumas.
 
I agree with Donavon. I think you're melting it with too strong of lights. If I were you I'd try to find an overhanging rock or some other shaded area to place it. Over time you can slowly move it out from under the shade as it adjusts to the higher intensity of light.
 
sounds good. i did acclimate it to the light by shading it with a monti cap but i guess i was a little too eager on getting it in the open to see :)

damn. i'm usually pretty patient with these sorts of things...

thanks for the input guys. i've learned a valuable and expensive lesson...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8280194#post8280194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Stidd
Nice Tank BTW
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thanks stidd :)

i had to downsize my 90gal leemar to two 24 gallon tanks... after having such a nice tank, just a normal 20g long wouldn't do. i found that 24x24x12 frag tank here on RC!
 
do i dare try to frag it now that it's prettymuch a gonner??? if you guys think i should go for it, what is the best method?

i was thinking of razor blading the remaining pieces of it that are still stuck to the rock. i've had good results fragging a green yuma by cutting the foot and letting the flesh on the rock re-heal and grow into a new one.
 
I really don't know what to tell you. I have alot to learn yet but that kind of light with a Yuma is very scary. One thing I do know is that bright color of tentacles and yet the milky white body is very very tragic when I get to that state with my Yumas. I have often wondered about Razor blading whatever I could at this point yet haven't so far. I've never recovered from this point either with a Yuma. Florida's all the time but not a Yuma. There is something about that color combination; the bright normal tentacles yet the milky white translucent body. Eventually it seems to self destruct from the inside with small intestine like protrusions showing up in various areas all around the mushroom and it shrinks/dissolves to nothing in hours. I hope you can tell me what to do. I hope you come through. Its a very gorgeous color combo because of that vibrant pink/red. You have had it for a long time from the moment of acclimation and it's tried to crawl even. I fully recommend if there is any life left that you move it to any shade you have in that tank.

I've learned two things personally about Yumas. Light sensitivity seems to be a big issue. And they do not recover well from damage either physicaly or chemically.

Oh, and they don't like high current. It doesn't seem to harm them unless it's direct but they do not like it. Probably a tipping point if they are sick or suffering.

Tall
 
Mark,

Sorry man from my experience its a goner. All the ones I've had that had a gaping mouth, eventually died. Might have taken 3 or 4 weeks but it died.

I go overboard acclimating yumas now. I acclimate then for 12 to 24 hrs now days. I haven't lost any since my new method.

That sucks your avatar died. I wanted that yuma bad.
 
yeah, too bad about the avatar. you should have bought it when i had it, BUT who knows, it may have disappeared in your tank as well. in mine, it just disappeared. one day it was there and the next day it was gone. even though it was well shaded in my old tank, it still detached and floated away... unlike some dedicated reefers, i didn't have the time or patience to disassemble my live rock setup to go looking for it.

i actually fragged the yuma in this thread and a couple pieces are healing!

we will see if they attach and form mouths... it's a long shot, but at least they aren't turning to mush. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8281624#post8281624 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DonavonsReef
Low ligh & low flow, that is your only chance & even then it's a long shot. Not trying to be negative but I have seen this happen a hundred time proper acclimation is key to long term success with yumas.
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Well said Yuma's are typically low light and low flow....
Rommel
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8282926#post8282926 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bboygraphix
do i dare try to frag it now that it's prettymuch a gonner??? if you guys think i should go for it, what is the best method?

i was thinking of razor blading the remaining pieces of it that are still stuck to the rock. i've had good results fragging a green yuma by cutting the foot and letting the flesh on the rock re-heal and grow into a new one.
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Ive got 2 friends did the same, cut at the base and it worked
 
thanks guys.

nine9d, your avatar is hilarious! HAHAHAH

as of yesterday, flesh is still alive on the rocks, but no signs of forming into a new yuma yet... with the other yumas i fragged, there were signs of "bubbles" being formed by now. i'll keep you all posted.
 
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