ID this New Spearer

TrappedMetal

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Hi guys got this today too - only small and real hard to take photos of!
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Ive took a video that ill put up soon if it helps and try and get better photos when its settled in.
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james
 
I dunno. the last pic suggests smooth abdominal segments to me. is that correct? If the abdominal segments are not sort of corrugated then it is not Squilla.


edit: in the last pic, can you describe that big black patch? is it necrotic or just pigment? looks like it might be a bad case of shell disease
 
justin - unfortunatly i think you are right.
on closer inspection it looks like pigmentation with almost like bits of hair algae growing on it. if this is the case is there anything i can do?
 
sure. the main thing is to give it the most stress free environment possible. keep water quality as high as possible. cut out the lights or at least severely shorten the photoperiod. It wouldn't be a bad idea to cover the tank with a blanket or something. If it will take food supplement all the frozen foods with selcon or vita-chem or something similar; do not try to feed more than once every three days if it won't take it. if it does take, feed it as much as it will take (but don't forget about water quality). what tankmates does it have? anything that might cause it some trouble? after that, just pray it molts before the case gets toooo bad.

btw if it is hair algae, cut the lights completely. if it gets bad enough the algae's rhizomes penetrate the shell and do not allow the mantis to molt, ultimately fating the thing to almost certain death.
 
thanks - looks like i will just be letting it have a few hours of light a day if none at all - will this not affect the mantis' life cycle?
it is in a 30 gallon 2ft tank (more than 12 inches tall and deep i think) on its own with about 5 - 8 kilo of live rock. the mantis itself is about 2 inches maybe even 1.5 inches but i know where it burrows and is fairly active, food wise i have only tried it with frozen mysis and it went mad for that and collected it from all over the tank.
Any idea how - at this size - it managed to get this disease?
I will be going to the LFS at the weekend so will look out for selcon but i have a feeling that we dont get it here in the uk - anything else you can reccomend or should i just look out for something that claims to heal head and lateral line erosion of fish?
Also - if it did get really bad, would the mantis still try to moult and die or would it just not moult at all?
Thanks for the help
James
 
no, less light will not affect it at all. It is good that it will eat mysis. I also forgot to mention that you need to feed it a variety of foods. I like using silversides, krill mysis, etc. You can even get a lot of stuff from a grocery store.

Without knowing what species it is I can't tell you anything about size. maybe this is a fully grown mantis. Sometimes a mantis is left at an lfs for a looong time before someone comes to pick it up. lfs lights are usually pretty high so a deep water species might not tolerate it very well... that may be the case here, but again, i dunno until i know what species it is and where it lives in the wild.

any kind of fish food supplement will do. Just make sure it actually is a food supplement and not something like garlic extract that just gives food a better taste.

I believe it would try to molt and die in the process... i could be wrong though.
 
well i am pretty sure its a rugosa but i have no idea how to tell otherwise because hes in a tank that is about 20 times too big for it and with the lights off now!
i ordered the 2 mantis and were in the wholesalers for less than one week and in the local fish shop for less than 24 hours.
it has built its little self a little burrow under a rock that it sticks its head out of every now and then. i thought about putting it in a smaller tank but then thought well it will be easier to control nitrates in a larger system.
thanks for your help through this
James
 
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