Large Queen Angel w/ flukes and more, help me!

jjk_reef00

jjk_reef00

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I have a 10" queen angel with flukes. He has been in my tank now for about 3 weeks. The 1st two weeks he ate everything and then things went down hill. His eye got big, he was shaking his head, and eventually started scratching on the sidewall of the tank. I did a fw dip last Tues and over 100 flukes fell off. The fish was doing better and I treated with prazipro this past thursday.

Yesterday (Sun) he didn't want to eat a lot so I was worried. He was breathing heavy and his eye was a little cloudy. He ate better this afternoon (Monday), but was shaking his head again. No scratching yet. I thought the flukes were back. So I did a freshwater dip again today for about 7 or 8 minutes and now he isn't shaking his head. Also no visible flukes fell off of him so I think the prazipro is working.

I have a 280 reef with a naso tang, a purple tang, 4" emperor angel, a california sting ray and 2 clown fish. I may turn the tank into a FOWL because I only have a few sps frags in my tank right now.

Just today my emperor angel started shaking his head but no other fish showed signs of any disease.
Any ideas what else my fish could have besides flukes?
And how to treat the tank?

I have a 55 gallon qt tank but it isn't big enough for my angel.
I'm trying to get a 125 qt as we speak.

I really don't want to have to break down the entire tank (although I feel it may come to that).
 
Yes the entire display. Turned off skimmer, uv, all reactors. All corals seemed normal, some polyps shrank in for 1-2 days but they are back out again.
 
Here is a lesson for everyone. Don't buy a fish you cannot qt. My tank was perfect until this! And from now on every new fish (may not be getting any for a very long time), will be in qt for at least 2 months.
 
Since the Prazipro is a seven day treatment, I would wait the full seven days. After the first treatment, you need to do a big water change (at least 50%), and I would recommend that you do another 7 day treatment. Based on my experience and from reading many posts on flukes, most fish can tolerate Prazipro with no problems. At this point, I would not stress the fish any further, by removing him from the tank. If he continues to eat, that would be a great sign. Make sure that you shake the Prazipro bottle well, and I would also make sure that you dose the correct amount. There are other members that montior this forum regularly, and I am sure that they can give you more advice.
 
Almost certain the prazipro killed the flukes. I think the angel has something else along with the flukes. He is still hanging in there, but still shaking his head.
My Naso is very healthy and shows no signs of disease. He is in the same tank.
 
jjk_reef00 said:
I have a 10" queen angel with flukes. He has been in my tank now for about 3 weeks. The 1st two weeks he ate everything and then things went down hill. His eye got big, he was shaking his head, and eventually started scratching on the sidewall of the tank. I did a fw dip last Tues and over 100 flukes fell off. The fish was doing better and I treated with prazipro this past thursday.

Yesterday (Sun) he didn't want to eat a lot so I was worried. He was breathing heavy and his eye was a little cloudy. He ate better this afternoon (Monday), but was shaking his head again. No scratching yet. I thought the flukes were back. So I did a freshwater dip again today for about 7 or 8 minutes and now he isn't shaking his head. Also no visible flukes fell off of him so I think the prazipro is working.

I have a 280 reef with a naso tang, a purple tang, 4" emperor angel, a california sting ray and 2 clown fish. I may turn the tank into a FOWL because I only have a few sps frags in my tank right now.

Just today my emperor angel started shaking his head but no other fish showed signs of any disease.
Any ideas what else my fish could have besides flukes?
And how to treat the tank?

I have a 55 gallon qt tank but it isn't big enough for my angel.
I'm trying to get a 125 qt as we speak.

I really don't want to have to break down the entire tank (although I feel it may come to that).
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Please post your water parameters.

Generally, if your filter medium has not been recently cycled using the seed and waste method, placing a 10 inch angel fish may be a very large sudden increase in bioload.

There is of course a way to make sure that you have enough nitrification bacteria to handle the sudden increase in bioload; but you will have to have planned in advance. Have you done so?
 
Water parameters are fine except ph is a little low 7.8
nit, phos 0
I need better test kits for both of those (I use api now).
calc 430
alk 9
mg 1400

You may be correct though on the bio load. I didn't adequately prepare the tank. How do you normally do that? Overfeed for 2-3 weeks prior to introducing the new fish?

I will be doing a 40% water change today or tomorrow.
He is still shaking his head but it doesn't appear to be getting worse at this point so I'm hoping the prazipro is working.

He is now very picky about food. The only thing he will eagerly eat is frezedried brine shrimp. Dinichi has been on and off, today he spit out a pellet.

The good thing is that he is very active and doesn't hide in the rocks anymore. I've turned my 3 tunze 6100 on full blast with very little pulse and he seems to like the high flow because he swims over a group of rocks that have good flow from2 powerheads.

I know I'm no where near in the clear but today I'm optimistic that he'll make it.
 
jjk_reef00 said:
Water parameters are fine except ph is a little low 7.8
nit, phos 0
I need better test kits for both of those (I use api now).
calc 430
alk 9
mg 1400

You may be correct though on the bio load. I didn't adequately prepare the tank. How do you normally do that? Overfeed for 2-3 weeks prior to introducing the new fish?

I will be doing a 40% water change today or tomorrow.
He is still shaking his head but it doesn't appear to be getting worse at this point so I'm hoping the prazipro is working.

He is now very picky about food. The only thing he will eagerly eat is frezedried brine shrimp. Dinichi has been on and off, today he spit out a pellet.

The good thing is that he is very active and doesn't hide in the rocks anymore. I've turned my 3 tunze 6100 on full blast with very little pulse and he seems to like the high flow because he swims over a group of rocks that have good flow from2 powerheads.

I know I'm no where near in the clear but today I'm optimistic that he'll make it.
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Yes, in general, really zero nitrite tends to indicate no ammonia, but it is better to test for ammonia in this critical stage.

"You may be correct though on the bio load. I didn't adequately prepare the tank. How do you normally do that? Overfeed for 2-3 weeks prior to introducing the new fish? "

Best is to cycle a medium very well in a separate container, using the seed and waste method, about four weeks in advance of introducing the sudden bioload. After you have transfered the medium, same salinity and ph as tank water, allow water to drip on such cycled medium, usually in the sump.
 
I would do it for 10 min if I were going to FW dip. It seemed most of my flukes fell off between the 4-7 min range. I did 10 min dip and it worked very well.
 
jjk_reef00 said:
I would do it for 10 min if I were going to FW dip. It seemed most of my flukes fell off between the 4-7 min range. I did 10 min dip and it worked very well.
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i have heard that this is also good if your fish has clouded eye. true or not? 1 tang has a little cloud in his eye and want to treat it before it gets worse. he is eating good.
 
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