Leafy Sea Dragon, Phycodurus eques

There has been very limited success aquaculturing these animals (even with the professionals), so I hope they are telling the truth when they say these are captive bred. It would be an absolute shame to see their wild population be depleted, and at $5,000 it is obviously all about making a profit.
 
They are not aquaculture There is one pregnant male taken from the wild a year and offspring sold. So raised in captivity meaning fry raised. I took care of about six of them with no sucess in breeding them but very beautiful animals.
 
So then I guess that can be considered depleting their natural population since that male did not get to release his offspring into the wild. They may not be actually taking individuals directly from the ocean, but it definitely takes away from the reproductive potential and limits the next generation.

I would also love to have one, but I would rather see a healthy population of them in the wild for many years to come. I recently saw them in person at the Monterey Bay Aquarium; they are amazing.
 
Saw a huge tank of these at the Monterey Bay Aquarium when i was visiting My wife's family. Here's some pics...nvm sorry the upload keeps failing i'll try again later
 

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You would need a permit to have it, too. On top of the $5000 price tag. Absolutely magnificent animal but, I'd rather spend that kind of money elsewhere.
 
You would need a permit to have it, too. On top of the $5000 price tag. Absolutely magnificent animal but, I'd rather spend that kind of money elsewhere.


You don't need a permit to own them. Exporting them requires a permit, and getting them through customs requires they are legally obtained, however that's done on the export side.

I'm not suggesting it's a good idea to keep them, just that it is incorrect that a permit is required.
 
It is not misinformation. It is information i researched. It links back to here because this one has a link to where they are for sale. I didn't post it directly on mine because Nanook doesn't want a lot of links because they take up space. Space conservative get my Jist? I want the Leafy and Weedy Seadragon thread I posted to provide ample information on kepping them in captivity. So stop RIDICULING ME and post information about keeping them in captivity. Leave me alone.
 
No one is trying to ridicule you but the information you posted is not backed up by any sources. And the other thread does refute your premise that sea dragons are "not too difficult."

Not a lot of people are going to post how to keep them in captivity because because they are difficult and because generally the only places that have the resources are going to be a public aquarium.
 
As posted on the other thread. In no way shape or form is it easy, big large budget public aquariums have difficulty keeping them alive long term and thats straight from the mouths of professional aquarists at big large budget public aquariums
 
So then I guess that can be considered depleting their natural population since that male did not get to release his offspring into the wild. They may not be actually taking individuals directly from the ocean, but it definitely takes away from the reproductive potential and limits the next generation.

Collector's with a permit to do so are allowed to collect one pregnant male one time per year to aquire fry. They must then return him back where he was obtained from. This is done so that more may be introduced into captivity for study and perhaps reproductive sucess. There has been some facilities sucessful at breeding, very few and far between. The price only reflects the severity of how valuable an animal like this is.

Very beautiful animals. I can't wait to someday see them in person in the wild.
 
OK, I worked things out with Reef Nut PA and we're good to go. The Thread is new and improved. :) Check it out
 
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