LED lighting and growth

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I have AI Hydra HD. Which LED lighting spectrum provides growth and which is for fluorescence? It comes with UV, Violet, Royal Blue, Green, Red and White.

Can someone explain to me what each of these coloring spectrum does or which one is not needed but just for viewing? I hear the Green and Red tend to promote unwanted algae. The Blues can provide all the growth requirements? Can I setup for 100% Royal blue and Blue only to grow corals? which colors great for fluorescence (color pop)?

I have mainly LPS, zoas, Acan and birdsnest sps.
 
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Every piece of the spectrum has a need, but some more than others.

There are three different ways to get pop. First, the coral has to actually develop color or pigment. Second, the coral can reflect light as-is - the wider the input, the wider the output. Third, they can use some spectrum and then reflect it at a wavelength with lower energy - take in blue and reflect green, for example. Most blue LED alone systems do not create great pop over time since the coral loses actual color and there is less to see... and they do not have a wide swath to reflect back. Mixed LEDs systems (wider spectrum) or those used with other types of light can create more pop since there is more actual color there to show off. The ultimate example of this is coral that comes from tanks like by MH - for a while, they pop really well but then a lot of the color fades over a few weeks since they stopped getting a lot of that spectrum.

There are proteins that use energy all the way from 350nm to about 800nm. Your Hydra will only cover a small section of this, so on some corals colors will not be as good as other light sources.

This may not matter at all - some people do not even notice and some of those that do can hardly care. Some people care a lot. Nobody but you knows what you will be happy with.

I would run the blues fairly high and then green and red at 30% of this and white somewhere in that range too. Lots of people like the AB+ program.

There is no light that promotes unwanted algae. If you have nutrients, just about any light can grow it. Remember that if you starve the algae in your tank then the algae (dinos) in your corals will starve too.
 
I have AI Hydra HD. Which LED lighting spectrum provides growth and which is for fluorescence? It comes with UV, Violet, Royal Blue, Green, Red and White.

Can someone explain to me what each of these coloring spectrum does or which one is not needed but just for viewing? I hear the Green and Red tend to promote unwanted algae. The Blues can provide all the growth requirements? Can I setup for 100% Royal blue and Blue only to grow corals? which colors great for fluorescence (color pop)?

I have mainly LPS, zoas, Acan and birdsnest sps.

"Which LED lighting spectrum provides growth and which is for fluorescence?" the violet through blue spectrums generally enhance fluorescence but there are many fluorescent proteins that react to light anywhere from true UV (below 380NM, not present in most LED's) to the upper reaches of cyan (500+nm). green is usually brought out better by low nm light and oranges and reds by higher nm light but those are loose rules as there are a lot of different fluorescent pigments and proteins.

"I hear the Green and Red tend to promote unwanted algae." algae loves red and blue light. green bounces off (that is why most algae is green). Use the red for warmth and green to balance it (JDA's suggestion give or take run UV, Violet, Royal blue, and blue at 100, white, red and green 20 - 30 then adjust to taste)

"The Blues can provide all the growth requirements? Can I setup for 100% Royal blue and Blue only to grow corals?" Some coral would be fine with that, many will not grow or even continue to live, there are many complex photochemical processes going on inside coral that do not rely on the Chlorophyll absorption peaks.
 
In general, I like to take the approach that most of the corals that we keep get spectrum of 5500 to 6500K in nature... some are deeper than this, but not very many. While most hobbyists take the approach to "prove" why corals need more than X spectrum, I like to ask people to "prove" why you should take any of this spectrum away since they did evolve and adapt to take advantage of nearly everything in nature. With every passing year, we are finding that spectrums forsaken in prior LED models are plenty important... it was not long ago that UV was "worthless," yet all now see the virtues. IR is next - IR helps coral move energy from PSII to PSI and process energy and they cannot grow as fast or be as adaptable without it, but they can live. Soon, all fixtures will have IR because of this, or just because everybody else is doing it too and they can sell more panels.

It is a good idea to blue up the spectrum a bit because corals under 5500K are not all that enjoyable to look at, but you can have a very good looking tank with still tons of red, yellow, green and IR. I like a good 14-15K look with crisp white water and lots of pop.

The absolute best looking corals are grown under 6500K bulbs and then are moved to tanks with more blue to show off that color.

Another thing of importance is that it is nearly impossible to blast corals with most white LEDs since they have too much bad spectrum peaks in the diodes - this is why they need kept low since the corals have to use energy to reject/fight-off this spectrum. The same corals can thrive with tons of white light from VHO, T5, MH, etc. that are better quality. ...so when you are taking about white light, the source matters.

If you want the best pop possible, get a few 6500K T5 bulbs and then blast the coral with tons of blue LED or T5 bulbs as well. This can be the best in coloring and illuminating coral. There are some MH bulbs that do this all-in-one... Phoenix 14K in DE and Radium 20K in SE are great at doing this stand-alone.
 
Just to add, go easy on the UV to start. You can bleach out your corals pretty quickly by running too much too soon.
 
Thanks all for your feedbacks I will adjust for 30% on green, rate and white with the Blue, UV and Violet.
 
Jda- those are very informative posts, I'm not the OP but thanks for posting!

Lighting is the most frustrating part of this hobby for me. I keep telling myself I'll be happy with some fixture eventually but it hasn't happened yet. All I want is a dimmable Phoenix 14k MH, is that too much to ask...
 
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