herpboyben
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that is a lot of triggers man 
nice ones at that
nice ones at that
lets see your triggers!!!!!!!!
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bluedevils32701
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wow beautiful triggers!!!
ultimate125
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13229891#post13229891 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kirkaz
Good grief Danorth, those are some amazing pics!!!
Here are my two youngsters
Sargassum
Redtooth
how do these 2 get along?
I'm glad you reminded me of those, you guys were pretty good to me (OK, maybe it was mostly Amanda). 
To get back on topic, can you tell us how many triggers are still living, in your tanks or others?
I was thinking about all the dollars I've spent on fish over the years, and the losses... As much as I like several of the LFS e-tailers, when I look at my tanks, the majority of long-term survivors are fish I bought locally at the LFS. Some notable exceptions are my eels (zebra from way back when - got it from Flying Fish Express and Brazilian dragon moray from Diver's Den), leaf fish, seahorse. But about 2/3 of the fish I have that I've kept over a year are from the LFS, one in particular. I have had a lot of mail order fish die within the first month, even if they came in looking perfect.
To get back on topic, can you tell us how many triggers are still living, in your tanks or others?
I was thinking about all the dollars I've spent on fish over the years, and the losses... As much as I like several of the LFS e-tailers, when I look at my tanks, the majority of long-term survivors are fish I bought locally at the LFS. Some notable exceptions are my eels (zebra from way back when - got it from Flying Fish Express and Brazilian dragon moray from Diver's Den), leaf fish, seahorse. But about 2/3 of the fish I have that I've kept over a year are from the LFS, one in particular. I have had a lot of mail order fish die within the first month, even if they came in looking perfect.
kirkaz
Jade
They do fine together, they tussled a few times pretty heartily after I added the big Angel and Tang, I think just reestablishing who the boss is (which I'm not sure)...My tank is fairly young, but everybody is getting along nicely thus far. The Sargassum hangs out almost exclusively at the top of the tank.
reefer334
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13236755#post13236755 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LisaD
I'm glad you reminded me of those, you guys were pretty good to me (OK, maybe it was mostly Amanda).
To get back on topic, can you tell us how many triggers are still living, in your tanks or others?
I was thinking about all the dollars I've spent on fish over the years, and the losses... As much as I like several of the LFS e-tailers, when I look at my tanks, the majority of long-term survivors are fish I bought locally at the LFS. Some notable exceptions are my eels (zebra from way back when - got it from Flying Fish Express and Brazilian dragon moray from Diver's Den), leaf fish, seahorse. But about 2/3 of the fish I have that I've kept over a year are from the LFS, one in particular. I have had a lot of mail order fish die within the first month, even if they came in looking perfect.
Lisa
do you treat your fish for flukes when you get them?
After I have started doing this my losses have decreased dramatically!!
Also I know what you mean about lost dollars, I think I am close $10,000.00 in losses over the years (OUCH and those poor fish!!!!):eek1: :eek1: :eek1:
Chris
StripestheEel
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13229891#post13229891 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kirkaz
Good grief Danorth, those are some amazing pics!!!
Here are my two youngsters
Sargassum
BEautiful little fella
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Pair of crosshatches
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Pair of crosshatches
Great fish folks!
Lisa, I don't want to go there, but since you've asked I will. Here is the history:
Big undulate, died from power outage at my school tank over new years eve 2 years ago.
Big blue line, died from tainted oyster meat.
Niger, titan, lei trigger, died from heater that wouldn't shut off, and light timer that also didn't work and made the water go over 95*.....titan did make it though, but died the next day.
Blue jaw trigger, notice that fin sore on the pic with it and the hermit crab? It got that from being tanked with a bridle trigger. Never healed, got worse and caused something else over the 8 months I had it. Finally died.
Orange sided trigger (brown one), that was a really rare find. It was a real killer and had to be moved into a second tank, something happened and it got sick and died. Yet in that same tank was a mean angel and it was fine.
Smaller blue lines, they got flukes from a big queen trigger I got. This was before I had read this thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...age=25&highlight=prazipro flukes&pagenumber=5
and learned how to cure them.
Queen trigger was sold to another person.
Fancy big color blue line went to another RC member where it got sick and died.
Clown trigger is still alive in my care and well.
Brighter undulate is still in my care and well.
This hobby sucks for that reason......you can get some really pretty fish, and then they get sick or something else gets them sick and they die. If every new fish was properly qt'd in an established tank AND treated for ich and flukes then there would be many less losses. Go read that fluke thread. Prazipro and Coppersafe......formalin 3 too as Reefer334 pointed out.
Lisa, I don't want to go there, but since you've asked I will. Here is the history:
Big undulate, died from power outage at my school tank over new years eve 2 years ago.
Big blue line, died from tainted oyster meat.
Niger, titan, lei trigger, died from heater that wouldn't shut off, and light timer that also didn't work and made the water go over 95*.....titan did make it though, but died the next day.
Blue jaw trigger, notice that fin sore on the pic with it and the hermit crab? It got that from being tanked with a bridle trigger. Never healed, got worse and caused something else over the 8 months I had it. Finally died.
Orange sided trigger (brown one), that was a really rare find. It was a real killer and had to be moved into a second tank, something happened and it got sick and died. Yet in that same tank was a mean angel and it was fine.
Smaller blue lines, they got flukes from a big queen trigger I got. This was before I had read this thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...age=25&highlight=prazipro flukes&pagenumber=5
and learned how to cure them.
Queen trigger was sold to another person.
Fancy big color blue line went to another RC member where it got sick and died.
Clown trigger is still alive in my care and well.
Brighter undulate is still in my care and well.
This hobby sucks for that reason......you can get some really pretty fish, and then they get sick or something else gets them sick and they die. If every new fish was properly qt'd in an established tank AND treated for ich and flukes then there would be many less losses. Go read that fluke thread. Prazipro and Coppersafe......formalin 3 too as Reefer334 pointed out.
Dan and Chris, thanks for sharing. I don't think your losses are unusual - I think a lot of us don't want to think about it.
Chris, I have not been treating prophylactically for flukes. What do you treat with? Do you have a QT program? What I have done is put new fish in an isolation tank and NOT treat unless there are signs of disease, or at most do a 5-minute FW dip followed by a 1-hour bath in ParaGuard or formalin. I probably could have benefited from having a rigorous QT procedure.
I have put apparently healthy and QT'd fish in tanks and still had disease outbreaks, usually after bullying or aggression of one fish, which gets sick first, then infects everyone else.
And I'll admit that when I have gotten very large/delicate fish, especially when shipped, I have sometimes put them right in the DT. You can get away with that sometimes, but it always eventually comes back to bite you. NOT a good idea.
I appreciate you guys telling the sad tales. I try not to think about my fish losses, but when I do it's depressing. Really, the best thing to do with a stable tank of long term fish seems to be to just leave it alone! When I've had problems, it's usually been when I added a fish, even after QT of 2-6 weeks.
The LFS I shop at most often is a small, family run place. They don't have a ton of saltwater fish, and don't turn over stock that fast. The label on the tank has the date the fish was received, and I usually would buy fish that had been in the store at least 4-6 weeks. These are the fish that have had the best survival rate, long term.
As much as I'd love more fish, I'm going to leave my 210 alone. It's pretty much full. As the fish grow, unless there is "attrition" (hope not) I'll probably have to pull out at least two larger fish, the zebra moray and black tip grouper. I tried to find them homes before I set up the 210, but not takers, so they are there for at least a while.
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