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jdjeff58
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Ok...I should have elaborated a little more but I was pressed for time when I posted. Here's what I'd like to do:
I want to mount a pump in the cabinet under my tank.
I want the pump to have a manual switch, also under the tank (like a light switch).
The water that I'm pumping out will go to the reservoir in the adjacent room and I want the pump to stop when the resevoir is full (since I can't see where the level is to know when to stop).
The idea here is that I want to be able to vacuum my sump (all three chambers). I want to be able to manually initiate/shut off the pump as necessary (hence the switch). Then, since my sump doesn't hold enough water to fill my reservoir, I want to move to the main display to remove more water until the resevoir if full. So I need the flexibility to move around without worrying about hitting the right keys on my computer/laptop.
The issue here seems to be that the float switch I bought for what I thought would be a simple series setup, does not have a high enough current rating on the reed switch to handle the pump. Otherwise I'd just do a series loop through the lightswitch and the level switch and I'd have to somehow supply power.
So then I thought why not try to use the profilux. I can use the profilux float switch, plug the pump into the power bar and away I go.
I don't necessarily want level 'control'. I want to just shut the pump off one time during a bi-weekly water change. The reason I don't want to go directly to drain is because the second reservoir in the other room will have fresh water. I want to know with a reasonable amount of certainty that I'm putting back the same amount that I just took out.
So that means at some point I have to drain the 'old water' reservoir. That will re-activate the level switch. With my light switch in the 'off' position, nothing should happen. But I was wondering what 'operational settings' in the level control panel would work, if any.
In the level control panel there are drop down boxes for each one of the operational settings. Which selection could I use for this purpose? If any?
Pumping the fresh water back to the tank is not much of a concern. I can do that from the other room as long as I pump to the main display. I'm setting up a second pump for that.
The reason I didn't consider using the profilux in the first place was because of a lack of power outlets on the power bars. But having looked things over, I can come up with one empty socket if I eliminate the LED's on my light fixture. Not a big deal. But I will only have one socket available for this task.
That being said, I'm not sure what kidney514 means by his response. Care to elaborate?
I want to mount a pump in the cabinet under my tank.
I want the pump to have a manual switch, also under the tank (like a light switch).
The water that I'm pumping out will go to the reservoir in the adjacent room and I want the pump to stop when the resevoir is full (since I can't see where the level is to know when to stop).
The idea here is that I want to be able to vacuum my sump (all three chambers). I want to be able to manually initiate/shut off the pump as necessary (hence the switch). Then, since my sump doesn't hold enough water to fill my reservoir, I want to move to the main display to remove more water until the resevoir if full. So I need the flexibility to move around without worrying about hitting the right keys on my computer/laptop.
The issue here seems to be that the float switch I bought for what I thought would be a simple series setup, does not have a high enough current rating on the reed switch to handle the pump. Otherwise I'd just do a series loop through the lightswitch and the level switch and I'd have to somehow supply power.
So then I thought why not try to use the profilux. I can use the profilux float switch, plug the pump into the power bar and away I go.
I don't necessarily want level 'control'. I want to just shut the pump off one time during a bi-weekly water change. The reason I don't want to go directly to drain is because the second reservoir in the other room will have fresh water. I want to know with a reasonable amount of certainty that I'm putting back the same amount that I just took out.
So that means at some point I have to drain the 'old water' reservoir. That will re-activate the level switch. With my light switch in the 'off' position, nothing should happen. But I was wondering what 'operational settings' in the level control panel would work, if any.
In the level control panel there are drop down boxes for each one of the operational settings. Which selection could I use for this purpose? If any?
Pumping the fresh water back to the tank is not much of a concern. I can do that from the other room as long as I pump to the main display. I'm setting up a second pump for that.
The reason I didn't consider using the profilux in the first place was because of a lack of power outlets on the power bars. But having looked things over, I can come up with one empty socket if I eliminate the LED's on my light fixture. Not a big deal. But I will only have one socket available for this task.
That being said, I'm not sure what kidney514 means by his response. Care to elaborate?
kidney514
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My response is that if you put a level sensor in the reservoir, the profilux can make the pump shut off whenever the float switch is triggerred, but It would only work with the water change feature. I am not sure if can work for the king of application you want to do. One thing is for sure, is you can set the level in reservoir to trigger an alarm the minutes is get triggered
jdjeff58
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Well....I was able to get the pump to behave on/off with level using the ATO feature. 'Water change' doesn't work until I 'start with timer'. The only problem with that is that when I'm in 'Manual override' in 'socket functions', the water 1 outlet won't change state. And I need to be in manual override since it's necessary to turn off my heaters, return pump and skimmer to do a water change since I'm draing the sump.
But it looks like the alarm works whether I'm in manual override or not. I wish there was a way to get the water 1 outlet to switch when in manual override. Any thoughts?
But it looks like the alarm works whether I'm in manual override or not. I wish there was a way to get the water 1 outlet to switch when in manual override. Any thoughts?
kidney514
Premium Member
You could try and use the programmable logic for everything (heaters, return pump and skimmer)
Create a programmable logic like the following
Filter
operator "and"
Water Change "inverse"
And set the socket of the stuff you want to be turned off while a water change!
Let me know how it works out!!!
Create a programmable logic like the following
Filter
operator "and"
Water Change "inverse"
And set the socket of the stuff you want to be turned off while a water change!
Let me know how it works out!!!
jdjeff58
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I can't get the water change to work. I'm not sure if it's because I only have one sensor, but I can't get the socket to respond to the level switch in water change mode.
I set sensor 1 to water change, sensor 2 to disabled. Max on times are set to 0 since I don't want a timer function. Even when I change this to 8 hours, it doesn't work. I set the 'start timer' to 1. I don't know if thats minutes or hours, the instructions don't say. I hit manual start, and the Water 1 socket is off and it should be on. I activate the level switch and nothing happens. The 'current activity' says draining water and never resets....even after shutting down the program and rerstarting. I tried assigning the socket to 'water change' and nothing happens when activating the level switch after 'manual start'.
The manual is not very clear in the 'level' section....at least to me. And besides all that, when I did a water change for real yesterday, the float stayed stuck. The float has never been used prior to this. Aside from the sticky float, everything works fine in leak detection or ATO mode.
Looks like I'm going back to plan A.
I set sensor 1 to water change, sensor 2 to disabled. Max on times are set to 0 since I don't want a timer function. Even when I change this to 8 hours, it doesn't work. I set the 'start timer' to 1. I don't know if thats minutes or hours, the instructions don't say. I hit manual start, and the Water 1 socket is off and it should be on. I activate the level switch and nothing happens. The 'current activity' says draining water and never resets....even after shutting down the program and rerstarting. I tried assigning the socket to 'water change' and nothing happens when activating the level switch after 'manual start'.
The manual is not very clear in the 'level' section....at least to me. And besides all that, when I did a water change for real yesterday, the float stayed stuck. The float has never been used prior to this. Aside from the sticky float, everything works fine in leak detection or ATO mode.
Looks like I'm going back to plan A.
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