lookin for a dslr camera..

iku

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im currently lookin for a dslr camera.. im sick of those sony compact camera.. that cant really take any real "macro" shots..however.. im a big fan of sony.. so im thinkin about the new alpha.
but on the other hand.. my brother uses nikon d50? and i think its already pretty good for a beginner (im a beginner btw).. so any suggestions are welcome :D
(i want a decent camera for macro + just normal use)
 
If you're not already locked into a system, the Sony is getting good reviews. It's a new entry into that market space so it might have some issues but it's probably still worth a look.

When you buy an SLR you're buying more than a camera; you're buying a system. The longevity of that system and the availability of items to expand that system need to be part of the decision. You should also go to a camera store and physically hold each one that you're thinking about. Take a memory card with you and snap some pictures with it. The best camera at a great price is no bargain if it's awkward to use in your hands.

Cheers
 
If your brother has the D50 then perhaps you can share lenses in the future if you have the same manufacturer body. The Sony is pretty new and I haven't seen any comparitive results as of yet.
 
I've only had one sony cam and ended up hating it. The CCD response seemed to change over time, and pretty much all the accessories stopped working (charger, then AC adapter).

I'd say to stick with Canon or Nikon, since they are the big two players in this market space and have a TON of lenses to choose from.
 
If you are not ready to buy in to the DSLR world just yet, perhaps you should consider taking a look at the Fuji FinePix S9000 or the Canon S3 IS (or even S2 if money is tight). Both are very nice advanced digital cameras that allow you more flexibility and as much manual control as you may want while also being great snapshot type cameras as well. Plus, both take very nice macro shots. Just don't forget your tripod :D
 
If you are sure you want a DSLR, I'd stick with Nikon or Canon. Go to a camera store, hold them, play with the buttons, and see which you like better for you, because they are both great.

If you decide you love photography and really want to get into it, both of these brands have an amazing variety of lenses and accessories.

Crystal
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7814051#post7814051 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Frisco
I've only had one sony cam and ended up hating it. The CCD response seemed to change over time, and pretty much all the accessories stopped working (charger, then AC adapter).

I'd say to stick with Canon or Nikon, since they are the big two players in this market space and have a TON of lenses to choose from.

Hmmm, if recommending canon and nikon based on the response of a sony ccd...perhaps the recommendation should simply be canon. Nikon sensors are made by sony ;)
 
i have an olympus e-500, and i really like it. all my previous digi cam. have been olympus, so i was familiar with the menus. I'm not planning/don't have the money for a ton of lenses, so that is not that big of a deal, and they have enough in the offerings for me.
 
Re: lookin for a dslr camera..

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7808006#post7808006 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iku
my brother uses nikon d50?

That would be reason enough for me. If he's near enough to share lenses, you could go in together on some fancy telephotos and things that you might not need everyday.
 
I would like to add my .02 to this discussion.

I had a fairly decent Minolta Lens system and recently moved from fim to DSLR. We looked hard at the Minolta Offerings but the deal breaker was the purchase of their assets by SONY. We made the hard choice of giving up the Minolta Lens system (soon to be sony?) in favor of starting over with a time tested system that continues to be supported and backwards compatible (Nikkor). We also gave a lot of thought to the Canons. However, the deciding factor was the Nikkor Lens systems and the wonderful offerings even on the low end models.

I will build my lens collection and then worry about what bodies I want to move into later. Nikkon simply does not leave their users hung out to dry. Sony on the other hand is famous for that (as is canon to some extent).

Sony makes some decent products, some junk, and honestly some very high end stuff. Their CCDS are in just about everything. I am not going to argue image quality or even admit to knowing anything about the new SONY offerings.

The problem is that SONY has one of the absolute worst customer service records of ANY large electronics compmay. They are a "buyer beware, we hope you read the fine print" type of company that offers NOTHING in the way of problem resolution. The only way they EVER admit a problem is AFTER losing a Class Action. Their factory support and maintenance program is one of the most expensive on the planet (reminiscent of the late packard bell) and they simply refuse to change.

In my short life I have had to deal with the CEOs office of several large companies to get satisfaction after other channels have failed to yield desirable results. Each time I have been able to resolve the issue at that level and walked away more than satisfied.

On the other hand 4 seperate issues with sony "lemons" (2 with me, 1 with a client, and one with a family member) have resulted in exactly 0 consesions for any type of resolution from SONY. After talking to a few attorneys, this is par for the course with SONY.

Let me put this bluntly, the PCG series of laptops had major design flaws that have rendered almost every one sold a boat anchor within 2 years of purchase. After several conversations with the assistant to the CEO I was told that for $1100 they would fix the laptop (to put in a $75 invertert board). The conversations bordered on being contemptuous and rude. Not once has SONY ever offered an apology or any type of resolution.

Issue number two involved over 3 dozen SONY CCTV cameras.They begain failing a month before the warrenty period was up and a few were replaced. EVERY camera in the lot failed, but SONY refused to replace them due to the fact that the warranty period expired. It turns out that bad solder joints were to blame. Once again, SONY refused to offer anything but their going repair rate and recited the fine print, even though it was a manufacturing defect. Again this was escalated to the office of the CEO and the answer was the same. I could go on...

Thats enough for me to steer far clear of their products forever. (anybody want a $2000 sony viao boat anchor or a few dozen top of the line CCTV cameras, they would make good drag anchors!)

Just my .02.... sorry for the rant.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7817463#post7817463 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CrystalAZ
If you are sure you want a DSLR, I'd stick with Nikon or Canon.
Agree. While digicams may fall under the umbrella of "electronics", DSLR's should be considered real cameras. As such, one should buy one from an actual camera company, not an electronics company.

One can't go wrong with either Canon or Nikon. One could very well go wrong with a Sony DSLR.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7826381#post7826381 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeanAnimal
Nikkon simply does not leave their users hung out to dry. Sony on the other hand is famous for that (as is canon to some extent).

Regarding Canon, the EF series lenses are a pretty safe bet for forwards compatability. There are too many pros out there with mega dollars in EF lenses to move to something else in the near term.

On the other hand, the newer EF-S lenses are specifically engineered to be used on crop body consumer dSLRs (XT, 20D, 30D, etc.). They can not be used on full frame pro bodies. If canon moves to full frame consumer dSLRs in the future, EF-S lenses could quickly become obsolete.

For that reasons, I stongly prefer to put my money in EF lenses, even though my XT takes both.
 
Actually Jeff, while the EF-S is only for crop bodies that seems to be where all of there development is. Most of the articles that I've read don't expect the consumer cams to ever go full frame.
 
I will just stick with th nikon glass and be somewhat comfrotable in the fact that nikon has really never hung their users out to dry. As for sony.. of course if you buy a PS camera you will end up with a sony ccd anyway :) I guess at that point it comes down to desired features and onboard glass.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7827986#post7827986 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeanAnimal
I will just stick with th nikon glass and be somewhat comfrotable in the fact that nikon has really never hung their users out to dry. As for sony.. of course if you buy a PS camera you will end up with a sony ccd anyway :) I guess at that point it comes down to desired features and onboard glass.

Actually, your Nikon camera has a sony CCD as well. If you want to use Nikon glass and don't want a sony ccd, you should buy a fuji, it's nikon mount and fuji makes their own sensors, Nikon doesn't.
 
Reefrunner, I guess I should have been more clear. I understand the Nikons are Sony sensors (I have absolutely no problem with that). I just will not buy a SONY retail product due to their support and total lack of customer appriciation. All of my CCTV stuff has SONY ccds as well. I looked at the FUJIS but settled on the D50 to get started with the DSLRS. I liked the feel of it better.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7827615#post7827615 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
Actually Jeff, while the EF-S is only for crop bodies that seems to be where all of there development is. Most of the articles that I've read don't expect the consumer cams to ever go full frame.

If Canon was willing to put L quality (construction and optics) into EF-S, I'd be much more comfortable choosing them. Right now, the only EF-S I can see myself picking up is the 10-22 (or one of the similar lenses from Sigma or Tokina)..
 
Reefrunner--It does not matter that Nikon Dslr cameras have Sony sensors. If you have trouble with that sensor, you do not have to deal with Sony. You get to deal with Nikon service, which for me has been a "painless" experience.
 
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