Montipora Eating Nudibranch? Close up picture.

Just looked back at my email to Eric and found this....

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.5 (point 5) grams in 5g seemed to kill both the nudi and the eggs. Corals still look real rough after the treatment.
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SteveU
 
Just looked back at my email to Eric and found this....

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.5 (point 5) grams in 5g seemed to kill both the nudi and the eggs. Corals still look real rough after the treatment.
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SteveU


Thanks SteveU

Just what I was looking for.

Looks like I need to find a scale first.
 
Before I dipped the two Monti colonies I scraped off a few nudibranch and took some pics. I dipped both colonies in potassium permanganate. I mixed
.25 grams in 2 gallons of water and soaked the Monti's for about 20 minutes. Then I rinsed them in a bucket of tank water. After the dip I could see several egg clusters and a few nudi's that appeared to be somewhat brown in color and dead. These nudi's and eggs came right off with just a couple shakes in the rinse water. Lets hope it killed all of the eggs.

Here is one of the Monti colonies. You can see the spots they were eating.

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I think I have them, perhaps just a bit, I've seen what look like eggs, but not many, and of course, white areas on one monti cap. I haven't seen the nudibranch though, it seems like they're the size of rize right?, Well I have yet to see it.

Anywyas I just dipped the affected monti in revive for 15 mins and used a toothbrush to remove suspicious stuff and moved it to my acan tank where there are no montis.

I have monti cap frags on the other side of the tank, they don't seem affected, will they be?
 
two fish I have had eat almost all my nudis are my black leopard and my radiant wrasse

You can also get a good number of blue legged hermits....some doubt this but it's a BIG coincidence they seem to congregate on the montis that have nudis troubling them!
 
I placed it in the acan and wrasse tank, I have 3 wrasses> carpenter, longfin, and mystery, would that help?
 
Yes but are those wrasses really going to do the job?, what normally happens is that every fish that is supposed to eat a pest, just doesn't.
 
I have a McCosker's wrasse that scarfs the adults if I blast them off with a syringe, he also constantly scopes out the general area of the infected monti. I've had MEN on the underside of this monti for nearly three months, I've never once spotted one on the upper surface of it and they've not done much damage to the underside of it. At this point I'm viewing them as supplemental fish food....
 
That is awesome. Thanks for the pointer AZshooz. My lesson, after losing ALL the animals in the QT, is:

1. Use a quarantine tank, every time, no matter what (the retailer who sold me the montis with "guests" continues to sell to (and presumably infect) others, even after I warned them;
2. If you think you don't need to put the animals in the QT, reread #1;
3. Don't put a bunch of high-end corals into the QT all at once. If you get a pest that attacks one species, you still may not be able to keep the others, since you can't be 100% that they wont bring hitchhikers along with them.
4. If you do get MEN, you need to go 100% to battle stations if you hope to win the battle. The second you see a nudi, remove it. Dip all the corals and do so repeatedly and on a schedule that breaks their cycle. Get a wrasse immediately into the system. Trim off some salvageable parts and crazy glue them to new mounts where there aren't a lot of hiding places. Put "bait" pieces of montipora in the tank for any MEN you missed and throw them away if you see any signs of attack on them. If all else fails, you may lose everything in the QT (as happened to me).

Getting a wrasse into the QT was a step I left out :(
 
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