my bare bottom.....

[T Man]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10610987#post10610987 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
If you want to go BB, great (I run BB), just say "I want to run BB".

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Originally posted by T Man
I want a change, I've used sand beds for filtration the past three tanks. I'll still be using a DSB remotely, I just want keep the detritus, poo and food in the water column for filtration and not build up anwhere- with the BB in this 29 inch depth tank, I can finally direct the water to the bottom, I like that
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I guess you missed this earlier post. As for listening to the what the "BB crew" claims, that is a concensus that I'm not aware of nor influenced by. I have seen SPS on the reefs in the south Pacific and have observed the separation of the two.There is the reef and the sand bed- then the lagoon and the sand bed. I want the table part of the reef at each end of the 210, with the three 400watters and my twenty-nine inch tall tank- I can grow a table colony at depths of twenty-four inches.
Show me some pic's Rich :artist: I want to see your BB and livestock, what do you use for the cleaning crew? will my four year old star fare well without the sand bed? it's never been without one....it spends a good amount of time on it.

 

[reef / aholic]

BARE IT BABY!!!

 

[NoSchwag]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10602881#post10602881 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
You can do all that with a sandbed, you just need adequate flow.

Can you please explain how one could get the high velocity flow needed at the bottom of the tank, to keep particulate matter from settling with sand? Just curious that's all. If there is ANY type of sand in the tank, it should be in the water column, or in neat little piles.

I know I have multiple penductors on pressure rated pumps, multiple maximods, and I still get a lot of settlement.

I put my penductors on loc-line so that I can point them every which way, and my power heads on magnets. I have been trying for YEARS to keep stuff from settling on the bottom, haven't figured it out yet. I did manage to keep it settling on the rocks, which to me, is wayyy more important. When the stuff is on the bottom I can see the piles, not so much when it's on the rocks.

 

[NoSchwag]

T Man, welcome to the club. If I may, a little advice..

Get a becket and skim wet!!!
Siphon always.
Feed a lot.
Go easy on the halide.
Keep the sump clean and dark.
Forget about filter socks (unless you beckett keeps clogging because of snails )

Good luck man!

 

[T Man]

Thank you NoSchwag, I have cosidered all of your suggestions. I would like to grow table colonies as deep as two feet with the three four hundred watters, I honestly don't think I'll get the rate of growth I've anticipated with anything less.
I understand why a wet skim would be benificial, I am going to need a better skimmer for sure. What do use use for a cleaning crew besides snails? what about my linkia and conch, how will they fare without the sand bed? Thank's a bunch. T

 

[NoSchwag]

I have a table at the top of my tank. 2 - 250 watters on 3 times a day for 1 hr at a time.

I really have no cleaning crew.. My tank is clean enough. If your rocks are dirty, you may need one.

My linka has been in there for 1 year, conch's fine.

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10631709#post10631709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NoSchwag
Can you please explain how one could get the high velocity flow needed at the bottom of the tank, to keep particulate matter from settling with sand? Just curious that's all. If there is ANY type of sand in the tank, it should be in the water column, or in neat little piles.

I was running 2 maximods running dumas 3004 props (2500+gph each), a Tunze 6060 (1600gph) and a pair of Seio 820s in a 58g. Was using Kolorscape for sand, and had no problems keeping it down.

Sand and detritus have much different densities. (unless you're using that crap southdown, which is entirely too fine)

 

[NoSchwag]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10643761#post10643761 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
I was running 2 maximods running dumas 3004 props (2500+gph each), a Tunze 6060 (1600gph) and a pair of Seio 820s in a 58g. Was using Kolorscape for sand, and had no problems keeping it down.

Sand and detritus have much different densities. (unless you're using that crap southdown, which is entirely too fine)

I am thinking more along the lines of high velocity flow.