my palytoxin experience

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code monkey
This happened to me a few months ago but I finally found the write-up again. I was fragging some Radioactive Dragon Eyes when one of the polyps exploded right into my eyes, was a great long distance shot. I've gotten zoanthid and paly fruit punch in open cuts before, and even in my eyes a ton of times, but this time 5-10 seconds later... HOLY WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION! It was like getting maced with battery acid.

After a mad dash to the bathroom which like a horror movie felt like it got further away the closer I got to it, and a massive eye wash, the burning turned into belt sanded retinas. About an hour later I started feeling weird. Like someone was slowly lowering a couple of cinder blocks and a small anvil on my chest, not much fun...

It went away after a few hours but I felt like crap for a few days, it was never an "I need to go to the hospital" thing, honestly with a neurotoxin a hospital visit wouldn't have done any good. I did pick up a bottle of that eye squeegee stuff from the drug store on the way home. The fancy kind, with the plastic half egg you put on your eye to swirl things around. The kind you spoil yourself with when you don't have health insurance for eye doctors and you know your work isn't going to cover jack **** as far as mishaps on the job because that one time you went to the emergency room with a massive finger infection from unpacking corals and had to get three rounds of antibiotics including a shot on your *** they told you to cram the costs... I digress. The eye squeegee stuff really helped though.

I ended up having to take the next two days off of work and my eyes were blood red for about 4 days. So yeah, wear goggles when you're fragging zoanthids. That said I still feel like 99% of the "I got sick from zoanthids" posts are hypochondriacs who got a runny nose after fragging palys; when you really get hit by palytoxin there's no doubt.
 
I ended up having to take the next two days off of work and my eyes were blood red for about 4 days. So yeah, wear goggles when you're fragging zoanthids. That said I still feel like 99% of the "I got sick from zoanthids" posts are hypochondriacs who got a runny nose after fragging palys; when you really get hit by palytoxin there's no doubt.

Glad to see you're OK, and I tend to agree with your 99% assessment, but for that 1%, it would at least be helpful if they knew what the heck they were dealing with:


I bought a used 180G from a guy a few months ago. As I was loading the tank, he was telling me how he and his girlfriend were feeling "congested" from the ammonia fumes in the room when they emptied the rocks and corals in there. I told him it would be a stretch that ammonia would've gone airborn that quick and they were probably a little nausious from the swamp smell of emptying an established tank without being able to open a window. When he proceeded to describe how he also got tons of little cuts on his arms from pulling out the rock, I coudln't believe he could've cut himself up that bad just pulling the rocks out of his tank. So he rolls up his sleeves, and it looks like a week-old case of poison ivy all over his arms.

At that point I had to ask: "were there any zoanthids" on the rocks you pulled out?"

The response was priceless: "Sure they were covered with those buttons, I forget what they call them."

I think you guys can fill in the blanks of that story.

Since he was down-sizing, I gave him the whole rundown on palytoxins, etc. So in some cases, those long-sleeved gloves might help along with goggles. Come to think of it, some may need a full haz-mat suit, lol!
 
I've had the same thing happen to me, resulting in pink eye for a few days. But it isn't/wasn't Palytoxin. If it was Palytoxin we would have both been dead in minutes.
 
I've had the same thing happen to me, resulting in pink eye for a few days. But it isn't/wasn't Palytoxin. If it was Palytoxin we would have both been dead in minutes.

I used to think the same, but there's plenty of documented cases showing the majority of people survive palytoxin poisoning with minimal issues. Respiratory depression along with a lot of other things can happen without someone dying, the important thing is the dosage, different levels of the toxin result in a varying degree of effects. Actually a lot of scientists are starting to think a solid minority of ciguatera poisonings are misdiagnosed palytoxin poisoning from fish that eat zoanthids. Yummy :)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19545971
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19545971
http://www.mendeley.com/research/case-palytoxin-poisoning-contact-zoanthid-corals-skin-injury-3/
 
Just reading about palytoxin makes me want to put my goggles on and wash my hands......and I havnt had my hands in the tank in 3 days!
 
I had the same incident, i was scrubbing some LR which had some old zoos still on it, took a back swipe on my toothbrush and it shot me right in the eye. It burned like hell, i ended up with a major fever, uncontrollable shaking and sleeping for a good 24/hrs. Then a trip to the doctors and some anti-bacterial eye drops to fight the infection from the other crap the zoo sent along. Worst 5 days of my life.. BE WARNED, WEAR YOUR GOGGLES!
 
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