need help from ALL light techies...wiring new light

[sir_dudeguy]

ok so i got a free jebo/odysea light..its the 60 inch one, that has 2 96 pc's and 2 65 pc's...one of the wires was pretty melted, which was why its free...(it was a wire from the balast to the bulb...heres a pic of the wire)

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anyways, long story short, i wanna take out all the balast/wires/everything and put it in a seperate empty fixture (so it would basically be like a retro i guess...)

I want to use the 2x96 part of it only...the guy said that it was a wire that goes to one of the 65 watt bulbs that melted...only, the little blue connector part on it is bigger than on the other 2 which are red...heres a pic...

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so there are 2 sets of each wires...2 w/the blue connector things (i have no clue what that part is actually called lol) and 2 w/red ones...

the red ones are smaller, so i'd think those would be the ones for the 65w bulbs right? I was completely stupid and didnt remember which balasts the 2 sets of wires came off of lol...but heres pics of the balasts..

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dang....after looking at that picture i just realized that the blue ones must be for the 65 watt fixture lol...which means the parts i wanna use are good...

ok so now to my questions...
could someone pleas look at the picture of the 96w ballast, and tell me where the wires plug into on it? and how do i get all 4 wires into it? theres only 3 slots for wires lol...

i'll post some more pics of the thing once i get my idea of how it looks...but i may be way off lol..

thanks for any help...

 

[Jester75]

Ok, I see 2 different ballasts and it looks like the one that is labeled for the 96 watt bulbs has 4 connections for the bulbs or maybe im just seeing things.

 

[easttn]

In your second to last pic is the ballast you want to use. (Not the one with 3 wire output you show connected). It says 96W on the lower left corner of the decal.

On that ballast hook the two sets of wires to the right hand side. Two wires of one strand to one post and the other to the second post. Those blue devices are caps, they are wired correctly.

The left hand side is the line input; its the power from the plug. Wire black to L and white to N. Do not do this with the plug in the wall.

 

[sir_dudeguy]

ya i looked closer at the 96w. one and it DOES have four output connections srry bout that...i wrote this after i looked at the 65w one which has only 3, andi figured they were the same lol..

wow, this is actually helpfull too lol...i've been lookin at the stuff hoping that someone would know, cuz i was way lost lol.

ok, so i got the 2 sets of wires that go to the bulbs hooked up to the right side of the 96w balast.. (btw, i was just showing pics of both just to compare them..i knew i was gonna use the 96w one)

so now i just have to put the power cable onto the balast...and then when i plug it in, it will turn on correct?

In the power cable, there is 3 wires that come out..there is a white one (but then theres an electrical tape type thing that connects it to a black cable...but i'm guessing i still count it as a white one?..i'll show a pic of it...)

then there's one thats black the whole way

and then the last one is green, and its got a weird end to it...like a little ring instead of bare wire...

again, i'll show a pic of it in just a minute as soon as i rig it up...hopefully i'll have it right.

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!!!

mike

 

[sir_dudeguy]

ok...first off is the right side w/all the bulb wires...heres how i got it...

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does it matter which post each set of wires is on? i'm guessing no, as long as i have both wires that are togethre on the same one, which i do...

heres a pic of the power cable...you can see that there is one that is black the whole way down, then theres one thats white at the base, and then another black wire is connected to it...i'm guessing that one still counts as a white one???
then there's that green one w/the ring on the end...i'm guessing its the ground wire? (green generally = ground, correct??)

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heres a pic of just the green one by itself.

where does this guy go? i'm pretty sure it cant just be hangin out there lol...

and then this last pic is of the power cable connected to the balast...well, the black and white cable anyways...the green one is just hangin there.

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there is some other parts, but i dont know what they are...i'm thinkin one is a starter?? and there is 3 on/off switches too, but if i can get the thing to work w/out them that would be fine, as thats how my other light fixture is...i just plug it in and it turns on...i'd rather do w/out the switches, at least for now, just because its all kinda confusing...but maybe after i figure all this out i can add them..

thanks again
mike

 

[sir_dudeguy]

also, i'd just like to show what the inside of the 65w balast looks like...lol..here it is

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i'm guessing this is what caused the wire from it to melt..

 

[sir_dudeguy]

anyone?

 

[easttn]

The green is in fact ground. There is a screw hole on the ballast for mounting. Put the ring on the ground wire through a screw and secure it to your ballast mount.

All the black stuff you see on the other ballast is supposed to be there. It is put there to dissipate heat away from the circuit. See if its any good by connecting the good wire harness from the 65W lamp to either top or bottom connector and the other lead to the center post. One wire must be on the center (doesn't matter which). Wire the input side same as before. It will power one lamp np if its any good.

You might want to post "the other parts" , may be something you need.

 

[sir_dudeguy]

aww dang...i was thinkin it was like melted or something lol..you took away my reason to knock on odysea!!

the other balast doesnt have that tho...its nice and neet in there.

thanks for the info tho..i'll post pics of the other parts in just a sec...

mike

 

[sir_dudeguy]

ok so heres what i got now..

first, is this what you meant by ground to balast?

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i'll prolly use a screw w/a wider head because that one seems like its about to go right thru lol, but for the pictures sake..thats what i used.

now here is the on/off switches..i'd like to not use them as they add a lot of tangle and stuff...plus one or 2 of the wires got pulled from one or 2..

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heres something that a couple of the on/off switches go to...and then the little red wires w/the white connecters go to fans that i'm not using.

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last, here is something that i have no clue what it does...2 of the on/off switches go to it (one on either side)
and then that grey wire goes to the chip in the pic before this one.

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hopefully you guys can figure this out???

thanks for all the help so far!
mike

 

[sir_dudeguy]

there were also some led lights that i dont know if i'll use..for now anyways...in the second to last picture on the last post, those 2 wires in the top left...those were the ones that go to the LED moonlight strand...

 

[sir_dudeguy]

does that all look good?

 

[sir_dudeguy]

anyone? i'd like to try this out as soon as possible, but i hardly know anything about electricity and i'd be afaid i'd be blowin somethin up when i plug it in lol.

 

[sir_dudeguy]

bump

 

[30mini]

Everything looks good. The last thing you posted looks to be for the moon lights. Just go ahead and plug them in and see what happens. i don't think you'll hurt anything! You're grounded, and everything looks to be connected well!

 

[easttn]

You look fine. The switch is very easy. Disconnect the white lead from the N terminal. Take either wire from the switch (does not matter which one) and put it to the N terminal on the ballast. Now with the other lead of the switch twist it to the white wire you just removed. Insulate the connection with electrical tape or a wire nut - your done. Now you can turn your lights on/off without having to plug/unplug everytime.

That last device is a trnsformer. It turns 120V AC to some DC voltage (probably 12). If your not running the moons or the fans it is not needed.

Your good to go. Congts on the freebie.

 

[sir_dudeguy]

ok thanks! i'll try it out right now and let you guys know if it works!

mike

 

[sir_dudeguy]

woohoo it worked!

now all i gotta do is drill holes in the fixture that i put it in (just an old NO fluorescent sriplight) for the bulb clips and i'm done

thank you ALL for the great help on this!

thanks
mike

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now for my next diy thing lol..maybe i'll do the 2x65's that was on it? i'd need to replace some parts on it, but those should be cheap.

and you say that the inside of the balast is sposed to look like that?