new tank upgrade baterica flim / cycle questions

brad65ford

brad65ford

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Ok so I want to change my tank and sump to a little larger setup. Currently i'm running a BB sps's system with just live rock and bare sump. It would be great if i could just remove the water and live stock (sps attached to live rock) into the new system with the same water and some new water (20 percent more volume) and everything would be peachy. But we know its never that easy. Have a feeling there may be a cycle or something may effect the sps's. Can this be done successfully with out running the new tank (cycling)?
 
As long as your not adding any new "substrate", i.e. live rock, sand , biopellets, I don't see a problem as long as the move is quick, out of one into the other. Any time spent in a holding situation could create a variable. I have gone from a ten gal nano to a 40 breeder in one day with no problem. JMO
 
I have changed tanks 3 times and never had a issue with cycling. You should be fine in a straight up transfer from one tank to another.
 
Yeah, it's the new crap that cycles, or stirred up crap. What you're describing is what I did with my nano to 30bb. Left the sand out and no issues. I slowly added cured rock, and those pieces went through some phases but it was minimal.
 
Update. Swapped over from 20g long to 40g breeder, had 20+ gallons of fresh make up water all the same ph , temp , alk an salinity. Well its been almost a week and lost most all of my sps's. Shame they were doing so well.
 
So sorry to hear this. Can you pinpoint the issue? STN, RTN? I have since done this same thing again with no losses so am a little confused. Was the tank new? Was it washed thoroughly? Sorry if these seem like insulting questions, just trying to understand what has happened.
 
I just had this feeling for some reason it was going to happen. Its as if all was shocked and nothing could have been reverted. It hurts since i had tons if different types of corals but that the name of the game i guess.

Fortunately there was no substrate both sump and tank was (is) bb. Only thing that changed was the tank from 20g to 40g and added 20g of make up water. Had a 60g tupperware container used to hold the new and old water with corals when we transferred the tanks / setup. Its been a few days (almost a week) and everything has slowly gone pale and today i've noticed most of all the acro's have peeled away flesh also montis have gone almost all white.
 
Definitely sounds like a parameter is off, assuming that lighting is same, etc.. Things going white and flesh peeling seems pretty severe for what amounts to a 50% water change as long as nothing was added and tank was spotless. Man, truly sorry this has happened. Any major oxygenation problems with fish? Major temp swings?
 
What you describe in the corals going pale and rtning could be either a big temp swing or more likely an alk change. Sorry you didnt have better luck. I had both of those things happen this winter and spring. Symptoms were the same.
 
you should have set up the breeder first and transferred live rock and one fish initially and then put a few corals in it to test. You basically did a 50%water change on a small tank which can swing the alk DRASTICALLY and if the new water wasn't at least 24-48 hours mixing it can be harmful to a small volume tank.

When I upgraded I set up my new tank and added live rock and fish from the old and let it go for around 3 weeks and added all the sps at once and everything is thriving.
 
recently decided to upgrade, so all the coral went into a temporary reef system. New water.. changed about 20 of old water into the system, coral over and prayed. Nothing happened, in fact, better colour.
New tank is slowly getting there and I am amazed that it's all kinda getting along
sps is a mystery
 
I think I have done this 4 times now and one move included 14 hours driving. Never lost a coral or fish. I believe the keys to success are temp, alk, and salinity. Alk would be my first guess as to a possible mishap for you. Sorry about your loss and good luck with the new system.
 
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