parameters of qt

[beach]

steup a 15g qt.purchase fish from lfs and they always have ich.i use cupramine with some success.have tried loer sp gr 1019 with some success.what is the best lo sp gr then add cu if ich shows up or start a combination lo spgr and cu.can malachite green be stacked on the cu. i do frequent water changes 2.5 g 2x/week.i also run a hang on filter with copper pads.am i losing all my cu in the penguin filter.thanks beach

 

[Lotus99]

I believe that if you're doing hyposalinity, it shouldn't be done at the same time as a copper treatment. To get rid of ich, the salinity needs to go down to 1.009 over the course of a few days.

 

[Randall_James]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9769420#post9769420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lotus99
I believe that if you're doing hyposalinity, it shouldn't be done at the same time as a copper treatment. To get rid of ich, the salinity needs to go down to 1.009 over the course of a few days.

Hypo is 3 weeks and must maintain the 1.009 pretty much exactly

Many LFS keep tanks at 1.017 under the assumption that it deters parasites. I have no idea if it does but I have read that it does not make much difference.

Hypo and copper should be mutually exclusive however, do one or the other..

Either way, the main tank must remain fish free for 7-8 weeks so that the parasites in the display can die off.

 

[Reeses]

I (personally) think there's no need to introduce more chemicals here, please keep in mind that copper in any form is a toxic metal. I just ran to seachem's site, and the directions state that cupramine cannot be used with any other medication.

Hyposalinity is a kinder, gentler ich removal method, but a method that should not be done without a hydrometer.

Please read here for more information:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-10/sp/feature/index.php

 

[RTKBA308]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9769839#post9769839 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reeses
I (personally) think there's no need to introduce more chemicals here, please keep in mind that copper in any form is a toxic metal. I just ran to seachem's site, and the directions state that cupramine cannot be used with any other medication.

Hyposalinity is a kinder, gentler ich removal method, but a method that should not be done without a hydrometer.

Please read here for more information:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-10/sp/feature/index.php

Thanks for the links and tips. Too much for me to read at the moment , I'm on pain meds for back issues .

But, does Hyposalinity work for infections too? I don't think it's ich, but of coarse I could be wrong.

Going back a week or ten days ago, my Clown went after this fish and took a chunk of his tail off. But, the white stuff is on his belly and bottom fin. Thats why I'm thinking infection. I have since given the Clown to a local reefer.

 

[uyenk]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9769839#post9769839 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reeses
I (personally) think there's no need to introduce more chemicals here, please keep in mind that copper in any form is a toxic metal. I just ran to seachem's site, and the directions state that cupramine cannot be used with any other medication.

Hyposalinity is a kinder, gentler ich removal method, but a method that should not be done without a hydrometer.

Please read here for more information:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-10/sp/feature/index.php

usefull link, need that too, thanks

 

[Reeses]

Not hydrometer, refractometer.

It shouldn't be tried without a refractometer. Plastic swing arm hydrometers are inaccurate and unreliable. Although I haven't had any experience with these, a high end floating hydrometer has been suggested as a reliable method for measuring salinity. I've never seen any high end floating hydrometer in any of my LFSs.

 

[Reeses]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9777265#post9777265 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RTKBA308


But, does Hyposalinity work for infections too?

Hypo don't cure infections, so to speak, but can help lower the stress and aid the immune system. You'll have to research that one on your own and form your own opinons before deciding to try it, I personally have found that the pH fluctuations are really hard to control in QT and IMHE, isn't worth the stress to the livestock. I feel that fighting the low pH is too counterproductive and may do more harm than good. I haven't counted it out, yet though.