plants as protein skimmer

uglyamericanV1

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can plants, given that they are healthy, replace a protein skimmer.

i have plants that LOVE organic matter in the garden (bone meal, compost) so can they do a protein skimmers job
 
The plants in your garden can not replace a protein skimmer,as far as i know, as the root system (or any other part of the plant) will not hold up to the constant moisture and will experience what is called root rot.
Some plants can "stand" in water, but the list of plants that can stand in water full time AND handle the amount of salt in a tank AND will stay small enough to keep indoors is a very short list. mangroves come to mind but not much else that i can think of. Also, a skimmer (as i understand it )is more about removing junk from the water BEFORE it breaks down in to the nutrients a plant would take up.
I have heard the skimmers being comparied to the function of waves in the ocean,they dont remove nutrients so much as wash the crap out.
i hope this helps ,and is accurate, as i do know a thing or two about plants , but i am learning about salt water fish/reef tanks
 
Has anyone ever tried Samphire (Salicornia europaea and various other species)? It's a higher plant with a tolerance for high salt concentrations. I've wondered if it might be suitable for use in a partially submersed/semi-floating planting tray.
 
thats a wery (!) interesting idea. it should be several orders of magnitude more efficient than mangroves, not 2 mention more approptiate size.
 
Many tanks are operated without protein skimmers. Some tanks are operated without either a protein skimmer or an plant/algae filter. But do plant filters "replace" protein skimmers? IMO, no. Its like comparing a horse to a car.

Protein skimmers carry organisms without mechanisms to escape the rising foam out of the tank. IMO this includes many bacteria and cyanobacteria. It also carries up and out particulate like left over food and detritus. It also carries out molecules that are attracted to the surface of the bubble, and this would include organic phospate compounds. Protein skimmers do not directly bind and remove inorganic nutrients. It can improve gas exchange between the water colum and the surrounding atmosphere and so help bring O2 and CO2 levels toward equilibrium.
Plant filters directly bind inorganic and some organic nutrients. Plant filters may capture detritus dependant on wether the algae grown has that characteristics (fine, sediment-trapping filaments). Whether these nutrients are effectively removed is a function of the uptake potential of the plant filter, the frequency of harvest, and the rate organics are released by the filter back to the tank. Plant filters do not directly remove bacteria. Plant filters, used properly, can moderate high CO2 levels (and low pH) and push O2 levels in supersaturation. Used improperly, they can cause dangerously high (8.6+) pH levels.
The main advantage of protein skimmers IMO is that they are easy to understand and the results are realized quickly. A skimmer also can respond quickly to potentially catastrophic events like spawning, sporalation, and bactrial blooms.
Plant filters are more difficult to understand and realize a successful implementation, IMO. IMO many of the benefits are secondary and not seen directly by the aquarist.
 
I've not heard of anyone using glassworts as a plant filter. So you might be the first to try. The only emergent vegetation I've seen/head used is tidal grasses gown in finely sedimented, mud filters located in a separate tank. Red mangrove is also grown, usually in a tub separate from the tank. IMO niether of these have the nutrient uptake potential of algae filters. But tidal plants and communities are interesting in their own right.
 
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