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emmann
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All other fish are fine. PH, ALK are in normal ranges. Nitrate is at 30. I'm going water changes to help bring that down. Ammonia and Nitrite are showing zero. They are very active and still come to the front of the tank to feed. I have had the sailfin for 3 years and the angel for about 2 years.
Tang looks like it has black ich but the angel to me looks like its suffering from bad water conditions! So that could also be whats wrong with the tang. If your water conditions are good you could have a toxin in the water. Replace your carbon need to get whatever it is out. Move them into a qt tank if possible. Said you moved into a 360 did you take all the sand and what not from your old tank? Could have stirred something up! I had the same thing happen when I moved my 125. Ill show u a pick of my emperor if you want. Looked just like what he looks like. No one knew what was wrong till after and I lost him. Hope you get this in time!
emmann
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ya im worried about something in the water. im doing a water change and will throw in some carbon. all my other fish are fine. i have a majestic angel, powder blue, yellow tangs, cherub angel, cleaner wrasse and a couple more small fish that are fine. the powder blue does have some white ich, but hes getting better.
i think i need to increase the surface movement because it has an oil like film on it, so it could be low oxygen.
i think i need to increase the surface movement because it has an oil like film on it, so it could be low oxygen.
Emperor angels will show those white diffuse blotches when their skin is attacked by Cryptocaryon tomites - too small to see visually. The fact that the powder blue has a chronic case of Cryptocaryon at the same time makes this the most reasonable diagnosis.
I would NOT use carbon (due to the potential for starting head and lateral line erosion of the sailfin and emperor). The oil film on the surface is not good, does your tank have an overflow? Try adding some aeration to break up that layer. However, low dissolved oxygen and/or high carbon dioxide will cause increased respiration rate in the fish - and you didn't mention that. Try counting the gill beats of the fish for 15 seconds or more, then multiply to get the beats per minute. Those fish should be at around 75 BPM, and I would start to worry if it goes above 100.
The sailfin may or may not be reacting to the Cryptocaryon...hard to say, but it isn't the typical "black ick" (Paravortex flatworms).
Jay
I would NOT use carbon (due to the potential for starting head and lateral line erosion of the sailfin and emperor). The oil film on the surface is not good, does your tank have an overflow? Try adding some aeration to break up that layer. However, low dissolved oxygen and/or high carbon dioxide will cause increased respiration rate in the fish - and you didn't mention that. Try counting the gill beats of the fish for 15 seconds or more, then multiply to get the beats per minute. Those fish should be at around 75 BPM, and I would start to worry if it goes above 100.
The sailfin may or may not be reacting to the Cryptocaryon...hard to say, but it isn't the typical "black ick" (Paravortex flatworms).
Jay
emmann
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ok found a problem with the overflow. We have fixed it and now the oil is off of the surface. I have increased the flow in the tank. I have a spare tank that I set up but it is only a 12gal biocube.
I did count the respiration rate and it is a little high around 90 for the emperor. I'm going to go feed some Rods food, all the fish love that, and if the emperor does not eat should I move him to the Biocube and treat with copper?
I did count the respiration rate and it is a little high around 90 for the emperor. I'm going to go feed some Rods food, all the fish love that, and if the emperor does not eat should I move him to the Biocube and treat with copper?
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