Pls help me to ID these 2 SPS

[ricardoz]

PLS ID these 2 SPS

 

[ricardoz]

nobody helps?

 

[Frick]

Vermiculata?

and Formosa?

My 2 quicky guesses.

 

[Rockys_Pride]

I love SPS but I'm not too good with scientific or common names, sorry

 

[Softhammer]

Then why would you respond?

 

[klepto]

The radial corallites of the first coral remind me of A. schmitti. I'm not positive about the ID, but its a start.
Here is more: http://sdmas.com/corals/543.php

 

[n8ureman]

The radial corallites of the first coral remind me of A. schmitti. I'm not positive about the ID, but its a start.
Here is more: http://sdmas.com/corals/543.php

The OP's pics are small and it is hard to see detail, but from what I can see the radial coralites do not look barrel shaped to me as in the description Vernon gives for A. schmitti...
"Description: Colonies are clumps of irregular branches. Axial corallites intergrade in size with radial corallites. Radial corallites are large, crowded and barrel-shaped."
IMO they appear to be more scale-like in shape. Personally, I agree with Frick, it looks closer to A.vermiculata.
Here are the pics for comparison..
A. vermiculata first...

Now the OP's specimen...

And now A. schmitti..

As for the second coral I think Frick is also correct in it being A. formosa

Image of A. formosa, as the coralite structure and spacing seem correct.

Let me know what you think...
Hope this helps.

 

[klepto]

A. vermiculata's description;

"Main branches are short or absent. Branchlets are of uniform length and spacing... Radial corallites are arranged in a neat rosette and are scale-like. Colonies are "corymbose clumps or cushions".

I don't see any of those traits with the coral in question. The main branches are prevalent and anything but short and the radial corallites don't have a rosette arrangement or a scale like appearance like the A. vermiculata I have seen in person. I think the radials look way more "barrel" than "scale" like.

In addition, the colony's shape doesn't fit the corymbose label.
A. schmitti still seems closer in my opinion. I have no hesitation in ruling A. vermiculata out. The branching and corallites on the coral in question are just too thick and irregular in my opinion.

I could be way off. Just voicing my thoughts..

:spin2: And around we go Joe.

 

[markie mark]

thats freakin awsome guys...I'm with you guys as well....nice I.D.

 

[n8ureman]

A. vermiculata's description;

"Main branches are short or absent. Branchlets are of uniform length and spacing... Radial corallites are arranged in a neat rosette and are scale-like. Colonies are "corymbose clumps or cushions".

I don't see any of those traits with the coral in question. The main branches are prevalent and anything but short and the radial corallites don't have a rosette arrangement or a scale like appearance like the A. vermiculata I have seen in person. I think the radials look way more "barrel" than "scale" like.

In addition, the colony's shape doesn't fit the corymbose label.
A. schmitti still seems closer in my opinion. I have no hesitation in ruling A. vermiculata out. The branching and corallites on the coral in question are just too thick and irregular in my opinion.

I could be way off. Just voicing my thoughts..

:spin2: And around we go Joe.

I can just see the rest of the "kids" in the RC playground chanting "fight! fight!" LOL!!:debi:
The problems I see with the OP's coral being A. schmitti are:
1.) the Radial coralites all seem to be the same size and are arranged too "neatly" to be schmitti.
2.) I still have to diagree with you on the shape of the Radilal coralites...I don't see the barrel shape.
3.) I think it is too small to ascertain its growth form...Plus, depending on the conditions the OP is keeping it in...(in regards to flow) it can take different growth forms.
In the end we can go round and round as you have stated before but it does dosn't help the OP find out what coral they have...so if the OP sees his thread he can take the information BOTH of us have provided and make an educated decision.:strange:

 

[Whisperer]

Someone check copiosa for the first pic?

 

[klepto]

In the end we can go round and round as you have stated before but it does dosn't help the OP find out what coral they have...so if the OP sees his thread he can take the information BOTH of us have provided and make an educated decision.:strange:

I don't want to just talk in circles. I was voicing my legitimate thoughts- not opposing your opinion for the sake of it.

The more discussion that happens, the better in my mind. :thumbsup:

 

[n8ureman]

I don't want to just talk in circles. I was voicing my legitimate thoughts- not opposing your opinion for the sake of it.

The more discussion that happens, the better in my mind. :thumbsup:

Point taken...I just could see the potential for this going round and round...and as for your second point I HIGHLY agree!! ( That Is also a part of science/discovery too after all... Peer review!) and besides as we both know this whole ID thing is not an exact science! ( and I am no taxonomist just a hobbiest!)...I am also a firm believer in having as many sides chime in to give the OP as much info as possible...sorry if I was misunderstood...

 

[ricardoz]

Wow, what a discussion! thank you very much for your opinions. For the second one, i think it's a formosa. and the first one, i really don't know, maybe both of you make sense, maybe not, there is one thing that i noticed, the color of the first one is blue, but neither vermiculata nor schmitti has blue color according to that website......
let's continue, the discussion really helps

 

[n8ureman]

there is one thing that i noticed, the color of the first one is blue, but neither vermiculata nor schmitti has blue color according to that website......
let's continue, the discussion really helps[/

Crazy huh!... You went from no one responding to everyone fighting to help you!! LOL!! As for the color of the corals you will find that is quite common in Vernon's work ( corals he says are colors x and y and you have a specimen in your tank that you know it's that coral and it isn't either color!!) I think it has to do with the vastness of coral distribution (and certain color variants being only found at certain locations) vs. what he was able to study in the field...hope that helps.

 

[ricardoz]

haha, you know i ve given up, for nobody answered me, but today i saw there were 12 replies, OMG, what happened! you guys "fight" here, that's intresting but really taught me how to ID a coral...thank you very much!!!

 

[ChicagoReefOne]

haha, you know i ve given up, for nobody answered me, but today i saw there were 12 replies, OMG, what happened! you guys "fight" here, that's intresting but really taught me how to ID a coral...thank you very much!!!

Maybe not "fight" per se, but engage in a vigorous debate between impassioned hobbyists. :lmao: Glad you got an ID!

 

[ricardoz]

yeah, thank you, i really like this kind of debate