red bug predators

droberts

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I was woundering what are red bugs natural predators. I have found some in my tank on a couple frags and one colony and i dont want to dose my tank with interceptor as it will kill all my pods and mini star fish and i was told it would also kill my clam and anenomes. I have read that there are a few natural predators such as the dragon face pipefish and a few wrasses. Has anyone had any luck with such predators?
 
There are no predators that I know of that will eradicate RB's. Interceptor is the only known option besides living with them. Do not get a pipefish to solve the problem. They will probably eat some but, not enough to make a difference in the RB population. Mine did not make a lasting difference. My experience is that wrasses don't either.

After avoiding it for quite awhile, I treated my tank with interceptor and I did not loose my anemone. My pod population did crash and I had some other issues as well. Read up on the subject and you will see most people have had great success.
 
Interceptor all the way. Aenmone and stars should be fine. Shrimp and pods will take a big hit. I do not have a clam, so I can't comment on that. As stated above, Rb's will not be eliminated by predators.
 
i have read that a lot of people have had an outbreak of aefw shortly after using interceptor and i only have a few smooth skin acros so dosing the tank may cause more bad than good. has anyone had any luck with any type of coral dips?
 
i have read that a lot of people have had an outbreak of aefw shortly after using interceptor and i only have a few smooth skin acros so dosing the tank may cause more bad than good. has anyone had any luck with any type of coral dips?

Look, you can't get a pest from using interceptor. AEFW have to be brought into your tank on a coral. There may be other good reasons to not dose the tank but AEFW's are not a good reason.
 
its not that i can get a pest from using the interceptor but what i have read says that it seams that a lot of people have an out break of AEFW after using the interceptor as it most likely kills what ever had been keeping them in check. i would rather deal with red bugs on a couple of frags and a colony of my acros than i would want to deal with the AEFW killing my millis. i would rather set up my frag tank and put all my acros in it and dose the interceptor in that system and wait 3 months for them to die in my dt before putting my acrs back in my dt than loose my millis. i did a lot of late night reading last night after discovering the red bugs
 
Read the another option for red bugs thread this will help you as it has helped many with the same critters. Good luck
 
its not that i can get a pest from using the interceptor but what i have read says that it seams that a lot of people have an out break of AEFW after using the interceptor as it most likely kills what ever had been keeping them in check. i would rather deal with red bugs on a couple of frags and a colony of my acros than i would want to deal with the AEFW killing my millis. i would rather set up my frag tank and put all my acros in it and dose the interceptor in that system and wait 3 months for them to die in my dt before putting my acrs back in my dt than loose my millis. i did a lot of late night reading last night after discovering the red bugs

I have read the same thing and my guess is that they got AEFW the same way they got the red bugs...skipping out on the qt process and just dipping new corals. I am only making assumptions though.

Interceptor all the way
 
.. it seams that a lot of people have an out break of AEFW after using the interceptor ...

I apologize if I accidentally implied that you did not understand the connection between AEFW's flaring up after interceptor treatment. I know you understand the only way to get AEFW's is to bring them into your tank.

My dismissal of this argument is that it is likely that in any tank with AEFW's present, the attack and damage would probably have happened anyway, eventually. The interceptor treatment just probably speeded up the issue. It would not be a reason, for me, to not treat for RB's.

If you have AEFW's in your system now, they will eventually do whatever damage they are going to do, regardless of how you handle the RB's. If you don't have them, then there is no reason to be concerned. Just my opinion.
 
IMO people become much more aware of parasites on their corals when they find and treat red bugs. Then people notice the damage AEFW's do because they are watching the corals more closely.
FWIW, Chris
 
I have used natural predators to keep redbug population below the damage threshold in my 50 gallon breeder which contains mostly acros. I used Interceptor to knock the population down quite a bit, but there's Interceptor resistance as the population bounced back stronger between treatments. After the second Interceptor treatment, I stocked the tank with several acro crabs(Tetralia species), and a green clown goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus). Acros inhabited with acro crabs had major reductions in red bug numbers after a week and within 2 months, none were visible on the acro. Unfortunately, Acro crabs prefer acroporas with thick branches that form dense clusters--they do not like stags or open branched species. Clown gobies can be good or bad for acros as some species will actually feed on the polyps. I chose Gobiodon atrangulatus because there are published accounts of them specializing on copepods. I use only one in my 50 because breeding pairs will remove the flesh from acros when making a spawning site. I have never observed this Gobiodon feeding on Acropora polyps, but have seen this particular species picking at the surface of the coral where redbugs were visible. Recently, I added a small Macropharyngodon meleagris (Leopard Wrasse) and within 3 weeks, rebugs are below detectable levels throughout the tank. Since then, I paced a frag of Acrpora granulatus in the tank and no redbugs have been noticed on this preferred redbug host. It has taken my tank over 11 months to go from total infestation to undetectable levels so do not expect results overnight. Interceptor is a good and reliable treatment for redbugs, but it does tend to reduce biodiversity in tanks. My technique which relies heavily on natural predators may or may not work in all reef aquaria and further work is needed in finding the right combination of natural predators.

As Always,

Jim Z.
 
i've got 2 kind of wrasse , mystery & green coris as well pair of dragon pipe. some of my sps colony its doing ok in my tank & some of it just kinda loosing tissue which is i suspected could be this RB's. anyway my local lps store here in canada gave me an advice although they still sell RX's saying let the nature will solve the problem in your tank & in other words let the wrasse as well the dragonpipe will do the job. In the ocean that's how they live for hunting pests. i'm not saying or don't used this rx's to kill those rb's, but what i'm trying to say no matter what you do this kind of pests still lives in your tank, its like a part of marine life nature the only thing isn't good ofcourse this is a harmfull for your corals. i would love to use this rx's but i don't want to stress out my sps wouldn't you. anyway goodluck for your tank.
 
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