refugium setup on 220g w/pics, too much detrius?

bhb1034

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I recently installed a 27g (20Lx16Wx20H) on my 220g reef tank. The refugium is gravity fed by my overflow water (~500gph) and then gravity feeds into my main sump containing a ASM G4+ skimmer. I have a 5in sugar grain argonite sand bed, a small pile of live rock rubble, gracillaria, and two softball sized portions of chaetomorpha. The main goal of this refugium is to produce pods for the large amount of planktivore fish (anthias, fairy wrasses, gobies, etc) in the main. My tank is pretty heavily stocked, so I have to feed them a good amount. Anyway, the refugium has only been set up for two weeks and I have to constantly stir the algae to prevent detrius and sediment from covering the algae. I know the gracillaria and chaetomorpha should be slowly tumbling, and I thought my flow rate would be adequate, but I dont think it is. The algae doesnt move much at all. I plan to add a 160gph powerhead with a Flo rotating nozzle, but I'm still not sure if this would be adequate. I know I wont know until I try it, but I'm not sure how the ideal set-up will look. I've read the Reef Invertebraes book several times, but still have trouble invisioning it. Will all stagnant gracillaria perish or just not thrive if not in constant movement? And at what point is detrius accumulation too much on a deep sand bed? What should I look for to know there is too much? I know the sand needs to be stirred, I have alot pods and mini stars that came with chaeto, but should I add some Nassarius snails to keep the sand bed stirred and detrius low? thanks
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it is very very common for stuff to accumilate in your sump. this is ideal as it keeps it out of the main display tank and also hinder algea growth as we know it likes to grow on detris. after a few months to a year this stuff gets thick so i recommend syphoning some out then. but if you have macro which i see you do this is no worries. as long as the macro starts growing nice and constant then this built up nutriets will be removed with its growth. this is when evenually you need to harvest some macro and remove these nutrients and allow for more room for growths. good luck
 
not sure about the macros requirements. i use grape calpuera sp. it does well in flow or in no flow, high or low light, and doesnt care when you start cutting it up. stuff is AMAZING in a sump/'fuge.
 
thanks, ive just heard that detrius will cover a deep sand bed and make void of oxygen. and thats why we need to stir it or have animals to stir it. so what about the nassarius snails?
 
yes it does inhibit oxygen to sand but your no way near those levels yet. like i said previously i takes a few months then just syphon it out.....get it. your sump looks healthy and well.
 
i have had bad experiences with nassarius snails...they dont stay in substrate and parish fast when they crawl out of the tank. yeah they comit sucide.
 
so do most people use detrivores in their refugium? ive heard conflicting opinions. also what do you guys think of the floodlight i have directed toward the side of the tank? it wouldnt fit over the top, but im not sure if it does much from the side. ive also got a 100w pc hood on top with 10k and 8k bulbs.
 
i would wait a few more weeks. when the sump is 5 weeks old youll see natural detrus eaters appear. PODS!
 
I personally wouldn't put anything in there besides herbivorous snails and animals, chaeto/macroalgae (I have heard that one species will eventually dominate) and LR. Anything else kind of defeats the purpose, no?

Nassarius do not eat detritus. That is a hobbyist misconception most likely resulting from incorrect statements made by distributors and LFss. They eat carrion, or dead animals, leftover food and will starve if expected to solely eat detritus.

If you do get nassarius make sure to get either vibex or distortus and not the ones that go by the name of Ilyanassa obsoleta. Obsoleta is an invasive, (non nassarius) coldwater species which actually carries parasites that can infect humans. It is also predatory.
 
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