Refugium Size

jimnrose

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Is there a recommended minimum size of the refugium tank to reef tank? I'm putting togethere a 125 gal reef tank, plus a 29 gal sump and a 29 gal refugium. I can't go larger on the 29 gal but could plan for a second refugium if it's beneficial. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Jim
 
I say go the largest that you can fit in the space you have designated for it. But if your going to have 60 gallons for the sump/fuge then that a pretty good size setup. The idea is just to increase the water volume as much as you reasonable can to aid system stability and the basic function of hiding equipment. 30 gal might be a bit on the small side just because it will be difficult the fit a skimmer, bubble trap, return pump, heaters, fuge all in a 30. So I would most likely do a seperate fuge in addition to the 29 if it were me.
 
I would say it really depends on your main purposes for having it. If you are primiarily using it for nutrient export -- then you should be able to grow enough macroalgae in a 20.

If you want to maximize critter diversity and populations -- then the bigger the better. In fact, in this scenario, you want different area types (ideally) like sand, rubble, rock, high flow, low flow, high and low light -- each will favor different critter types. The sky is the limit here! My refuge for my 120 mixed reef is a swimming pool in the basement -- connected to barrels -- and rubble zones in the main tank. It's an ecosystem.

You can also have a favorable zone specific for just the critters you want - like all rubble and macro for mysid shrimp -- or low flow deep rocks for copepods. A 20 can do this too...
 
Just for an experiment. I setup a 5 gallon bucket fuge on my 90, and had great results. For a while I couldn't get my nitrates below 10-15, and a couple of weeks after adding the fuge they were at 0.
 
Thanks for all the inputs. Being new, I am overloaded with the needs but am looking for flexibility in the hardware. I decided to stick with the original set-up but plumb for a second refugium during my initial phase. BTW, I was watching a program on commercial fish farming stating that the addition of mussels & kelp were a significant improvement. Has anyone ever heard of mussels being added to a refugium?
Take care, Jim
 
I would say it really depends on your main purposes for having it. If you are primiarily using it for nutrient export -- then you should be able to grow enough macroalgae in a 20.

If you want to maximize critter diversity and populations -- then the bigger the better. In fact, in this scenario, you want different area types (ideally) like sand, rubble, rock, high flow, low flow, high and low light -- each will favor different critter types. The sky is the limit here! My refuge for my 120 mixed reef is a swimming pool in the basement -- connected to barrels -- and rubble zones in the main tank. It's an ecosystem.

You can also have a favorable zone specific for just the critters you want - like all rubble and macro for mysid shrimp -- or low flow deep rocks for copepods. A 20 can do this too...
Bob24578, What you are explaining is information that isnt easily accessable for someone starting there first build. I have gathered info from many sources to put a plan together for my 75 gallon with a 55 gallon sump/refugium. I have toyed with having a second refugium. Size to be deternined. I am sure that I am not the only one who perked up when he or she read the word ECOSYSTEM. With that said, a thread detailing your thoughts on building said ecosystem would be worth its weight in gold. I am foaming out of the mouth just thinking about how such a thread would be priceless. My original thought was to build a very large refugium to home in addition to the macros to grow seagrasses. I decided to shelve that idea for awhile because the reef system is dauntung enough on its own. If you care to share your refugium experience it may go down as one of the best threads ever written for many reef hobbiests. Like I said, it would be priceless.

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