Rubbermaid remote sump design help!

stenaldermand

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Folks, I have a 156 display with mostly SPS that is plumbed through the floor into an unfinished part of my basement. Currently I use a Rubbermaid 100 gallon stock tank as a sump. The return to the display comes off a bulkhead on the bottom of the tank, as does the intake to a 50 gallon frag tank (on the opposite side from the main return intake). Both the main tank and the frag tank simply drain back inbto my sump. I have no real partions in the sump except for a small "wall" of live rock I stacked to confine cheato near where the main tank drain lines drain in. I use a filter sock on the main drain lines which is changed out every few days.

Within the large open sump I have a bubbleking 300 internal skimmer positioned on a milkcrate on the opposite end of the rubbermaid from the drain lines. I also have media reactors full of GFO and charcoal that are fed off the main tank return lines but drain back into the sump. My Kalk drip and Calcium reactor drip also simply drip back into the open sump.

Many of you use these rubbermaids for remote sumps but the systems I've seen utilize several smaller rubbermaids which drain into one another through bulkheads and overflows. Could some of you post pictures of your configurations? I'm concerned that my skimmer is less effective because it's not near the main drain lines from the tank above but rather is on the opposite end of the large Rubbermaid basin. Ditto with my cheato because I have no real way to force flow through it.

Would I be better off with a series of 2-3 smaller rubbermaids where each container acts likes a partition in a more classic sump? My phosphates are a concern in spite of my huge skimmer and water volume. I'm becoming convined that using this single large sump means my not all my water passes through the skimmer or cheato and is negatively impacting my water quality.

Thoughts and examples?

Thanks, Mike
 
This is an older picture and has been changed quite a bit but the general concept of how the water enters the sump and skimmer area is the same.

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The three pipes elbowed into the gray box are the three drain pipes (Bean's 3-pipe design), which dump into the box that contains my skimmer. From there the water is skimmed and dumped back into the box, which overflows into the main 100g Rubbermaid sump via four bulkhead fittings. I made the skimmer box out of scrap PVC sheet I had lying around but many people use a $10 box from Walmart or whatever. Same idea.

I've reconfigured the drains a bit and now the drains in the skimmer box dump into a bioballs box that has filter sock material on the top so all my water gets mechanically and biologically filtered after skimming. I don't keep a reef or LR so this works well for me. In your case, this would also work well as the water in my sump is now nice and clean and would be a good area to pull water from for teh various reactors.
 
Yeah, that's an extreme example for sure. I don't understand his standpipes in the middle of the sumps but hey...whatever works. I also don't understand what he needed all the sumps for but maybe the pictures were taken before everything was installed. Nice work though.
 
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