Saving Mysis Shrimp & Ordeals

Irishman360

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So I have been switching off between mysis shrimp and pellets to feed my fish that are in QT. I was wondering since I thaw them out in a Tupperware container can I throw the rest in the refrigerator until next time I decide to feed them shrimp?

Second ordeal. I have an ammonia badge in my QT tank and its a little on the dark yellow side almost going green for alert, I did a water change yesterday with prime in it and tested today and it read 0.08. I have a new bucket going for a water change going now so I'm sure the ammonia would drop by doing another WC. Is there a reason why my ammonia is starting to go? When I set up the tank it was all zero's for about 6 days and I was only feeding them once a day. Could that be the problem is that I started feeding them twice a day now? Will they be hungry if I drop it back down to once a day now.

Third Ordeal - I bought a cleaner shrimp to help clean my DT tank since my fire shrimp is just hiding all the time. Long story short my fire shrimp ended up eating my cleaner shrimp. The fire is a descent size already so I guess I am a little paranoid that he might try and eat my fish when I put them in from the QT, is there any chance of that happening and that I should sell him back? Also I have had 2 hermit crabs die already. What could be the reasoning for that? I would like to get more an emerald crab to help clean up the dead things since nothing else is.
 
1) yes, don't wait too long or it will spoil, maybe a day.

2) Ammonia will rise as long as there are fish in a tank. With little to none nitrifying bacteria to consume the ammonia it will keep rising. Do regular water changes to reduce/remove ammonia.

3) Fire shrimp are supposed to be nocturnal. Most likely only coming out when your house is dark and quiet. Not sure if he'll eat your fish, didn't think they do that. Should be safe. How long have the hermits been dead? Hermits molt often. Did they die, or just molt? Look at the carcass, is there an abdomen attached? It's more often than not a molt people see in the tank. If your crabs are dying, it could be likely large swings in water parameters. Have you ever used copper in your tank? Crabs are also very sensitive to copper. Test for traces of copper as well.
 
Hermits

Hermits

How new is the QT? DT?

DT is up and running since June 7, 2015. QT has been since 7-11-15.

1) yes, don't wait too long or it will spoil, maybe a day.

2) Ammonia will rise as long as there are fish in a tank. With little to none nitrifying bacteria to consume the ammonia it will keep rising. Do regular water changes to reduce/remove ammonia.

3) Fire shrimp are supposed to be nocturnal. Most likely only coming out when your house is dark and quiet. Not sure if he'll eat your fish, didn't think they do that. Should be safe. How long have the hermits been dead? Hermits molt often. Did they die, or just molt? Look at the carcass, is there an abdomen attached? It's more often than not a molt people see in the tank. If your crabs are dying, it could be likely large swings in water parameters. Have you ever used copper in your tank? Crabs are also very sensitive to copper. Test for traces of copper as well.

One of the hermits have been dead for a week. It came out of the shell and everything so it was just its body floating around. The other one We are pretty sure is dead. Its in a crevasse of a rock and hasn't moved in like 5 days. Did was water change last night on the DT and when I was pumping water back in I would put it on it and it didn't move at all as well. I haven't taken them out because I thought the other hermits would eat them up and clean out their shells.

I haven't treated my copper with anything yet but I did check my parameters and they are Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 20PPM
 
I never remove my molts, but only because the bristle worms like them (I've actually seen one rather large bristle worm snag a molt and drag it back into the rocks), but anything dead gets removed. If you don't remove the dead stuff, as it decomposes it will cause your ammonia to rise. Just like throwing in a table shrimp for an ammonia source to cycle a new tank.
 
I never remove my molts, but only because the bristle worms like them (I've actually seen one rather large bristle worm snag a molt and drag it back into the rocks), but anything dead gets removed. If you don't remove the dead stuff, as it decomposes it will cause your ammonia to rise. Just like throwing in a table shrimp for an ammonia source to cycle a new tank.

That makes sense. I thought the CUC just help dispose of it in case you didn't "find" it or something along those lines.
 
They do, but its still better to remove dead things so you don't get an ammonia spike. Even the slightest bit of ammonia is very harmful to your inhabitants.
 
Once you dose prime chances are you will still detect ammonia. It is most likely a false reading. It is discussed on seachems website about prime. You will need a different ammonia test if you want an accurate reading. Seachems test will still measure free ammonia after using prime while the other tests will measure total ammonia.
 
Once you dose prime chances are you will still detect ammonia. It is most likely a false reading. It is discussed on seachems website about prime. You will need a different ammonia test if you want an accurate reading. Seachems test will still measure free ammonia after using prime while the other tests will measure total ammonia.

Which test would I use to test for them ammonia if prime is being used?
 
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If the picture did not work it is Seachem ammonia multi test
 
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