Yellow_donkey
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OK I will try to keep this as short as possible.
I live rock cycled my tank and it took 20 days, my ammonia and nitrite never got very high at all but it did cycle. I went ahead and added by CUC, some corals, some more corals, a pair of clowns, a wrasse, some more corals and more corals.
Everything was going great, we get to day 60 or so and I decide I disliked my aqauscaping as portion of what I used was man-made dry rock and my wife did not like it all. So I decided to remove 2 pieces out of this 30-gallon rimless gallon tank with 2 AI Primes. I figured it was about 20 to 30% of the rock total and after reading figured it would be worth the risk.
Well, as you can imagine within 2 days I had an ammonia spike and completely lost my cycle. I lost both clowns over the next week and anxiously waited for cycle to start picking up again, but nothing, ammonia was staying high. So I reached out to a few local Facebook forums and had a really nice fella an hour away who frags for a living and he was able to hook me up with about 50 cycled (20 years cycle) blue bio balls. That was 3 days ago. Now mind you this is a 30 gallon with a 18x18x18 sump and a 24x24x12 tank. So I start cramming bio balls and bags wherever I can, the overflow, the return, the skimmer compartment, even in the sock.
24 hours goes by and no change. I am standing in front of the tank along with my wife scratching our heads and I realized I left the SUPER over sized UV light going, so all water column movement of BB is null and void. I turn that off and within 12 hours ammonia is halved. 24 hours after the light went off I see my first Nitrite. 36 hours after light, ammonia is trace and nitrite is pretty darn high. And now, just an hour ago, about 48 hours after the UV went off I am back to 0 ammonia and zero nitrite. With a Nitrate sitting between 5 and 10.
Also, today, with the cycle completed for the second time I get a green algae bloom, well not a bloom but a good bit of growth on everything and I see the CUC sigh in relief. They did not like the brown diatom, most still sitting on rocks leftover. BTW this is my first green growth in the tank so far.
So I am writing to ask, what is my next step. Again my Nitrate is at 5 to 10 (some is residual from first cycle, have not done a water change in 15 days as I wanted to keep ammonia up to promote the BB bloom).
What I dont understand is my Phosphate went from .5 to 0 in the last 12 hours, ooohh wait the algae bloom today! Is that what happened? I just figured it out writing the question down, haha.
So what do I do now? Do I do a large water change? I have a DIY ATS, still Diatom growth from what I can tell, BRS media reactor with ROX .8 I need to change, it just got to day 15 today and with that change should I add GFO, or too early? I also dose Brightwell Reef Code A and B as well as MG and then reef colors and reef fuel on a 8 dosser unit. All corals did amazing well through this, none showed any signs of being unhappy. Torches are fine but not ecstatic (if I had too pick anyone unhappy) but even my two Yumas are really happy and Goniopora (good salesman got me on that one!)
When should I throw the UV back on or just leave it off for awhile?
I have one wrasse remaining but I don't think he is going to make it unless fish can become unpoisened from ammonia?
So, add GFO?
UV situation
Add a a clown pair back in, (want to keep a healthy ammonia dosing and BB up)
And these bags bags of bioballs. They worked a miracle with a 3 day re-cycle but they are really unsightly. Can I remove like 2 a week or so. I did add a plate of MarinePure at the start of this, so I am thinking that will take 30 days to get a good growth of BB going. If 55 bio balls total, 2 a week, 4 a week removed?
I wont again, impact any % of my BB surface area unless I know I can support the bioload, without question, such a foolish mistake. When I do remove bioballs (they will go in a saltwater mix for holding and ammonia doseing) Feel sorry for the couple of fish I lost. I have not had higher Nitrate before; water change, GFO, wait for ATS to come up to full capacity? Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks everyone.:dance:
I live rock cycled my tank and it took 20 days, my ammonia and nitrite never got very high at all but it did cycle. I went ahead and added by CUC, some corals, some more corals, a pair of clowns, a wrasse, some more corals and more corals.
Everything was going great, we get to day 60 or so and I decide I disliked my aqauscaping as portion of what I used was man-made dry rock and my wife did not like it all. So I decided to remove 2 pieces out of this 30-gallon rimless gallon tank with 2 AI Primes. I figured it was about 20 to 30% of the rock total and after reading figured it would be worth the risk.
Well, as you can imagine within 2 days I had an ammonia spike and completely lost my cycle. I lost both clowns over the next week and anxiously waited for cycle to start picking up again, but nothing, ammonia was staying high. So I reached out to a few local Facebook forums and had a really nice fella an hour away who frags for a living and he was able to hook me up with about 50 cycled (20 years cycle) blue bio balls. That was 3 days ago. Now mind you this is a 30 gallon with a 18x18x18 sump and a 24x24x12 tank. So I start cramming bio balls and bags wherever I can, the overflow, the return, the skimmer compartment, even in the sock.
24 hours goes by and no change. I am standing in front of the tank along with my wife scratching our heads and I realized I left the SUPER over sized UV light going, so all water column movement of BB is null and void. I turn that off and within 12 hours ammonia is halved. 24 hours after the light went off I see my first Nitrite. 36 hours after light, ammonia is trace and nitrite is pretty darn high. And now, just an hour ago, about 48 hours after the UV went off I am back to 0 ammonia and zero nitrite. With a Nitrate sitting between 5 and 10.
Also, today, with the cycle completed for the second time I get a green algae bloom, well not a bloom but a good bit of growth on everything and I see the CUC sigh in relief. They did not like the brown diatom, most still sitting on rocks leftover. BTW this is my first green growth in the tank so far.
So I am writing to ask, what is my next step. Again my Nitrate is at 5 to 10 (some is residual from first cycle, have not done a water change in 15 days as I wanted to keep ammonia up to promote the BB bloom).
What I dont understand is my Phosphate went from .5 to 0 in the last 12 hours, ooohh wait the algae bloom today! Is that what happened? I just figured it out writing the question down, haha.
So what do I do now? Do I do a large water change? I have a DIY ATS, still Diatom growth from what I can tell, BRS media reactor with ROX .8 I need to change, it just got to day 15 today and with that change should I add GFO, or too early? I also dose Brightwell Reef Code A and B as well as MG and then reef colors and reef fuel on a 8 dosser unit. All corals did amazing well through this, none showed any signs of being unhappy. Torches are fine but not ecstatic (if I had too pick anyone unhappy) but even my two Yumas are really happy and Goniopora (good salesman got me on that one!)
When should I throw the UV back on or just leave it off for awhile?
I have one wrasse remaining but I don't think he is going to make it unless fish can become unpoisened from ammonia?
So, add GFO?
UV situation
Add a a clown pair back in, (want to keep a healthy ammonia dosing and BB up)
And these bags bags of bioballs. They worked a miracle with a 3 day re-cycle but they are really unsightly. Can I remove like 2 a week or so. I did add a plate of MarinePure at the start of this, so I am thinking that will take 30 days to get a good growth of BB going. If 55 bio balls total, 2 a week, 4 a week removed?
I wont again, impact any % of my BB surface area unless I know I can support the bioload, without question, such a foolish mistake. When I do remove bioballs (they will go in a saltwater mix for holding and ammonia doseing) Feel sorry for the couple of fish I lost. I have not had higher Nitrate before; water change, GFO, wait for ATS to come up to full capacity? Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks everyone.:dance:
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