I have seen several threads say dont use a skimmer but it just doesnt make sense
Why would u set up a system skimmerless? When you can buy a large skimmer that is going to aid this filter and reduce nutrients to the proper levels?
In a tank like that you can get growth if lightly stocked but much better growth would be found with a skimmer
By the way i dont mean this as rude because i have a few skimmerless systems. But they need so much more time spent on them. If I was wanting a nice display tank for my house I would set up a skimmer.
It puzzles me why aquarist do this when skimmers have been proven and are run on the best systems in the world. Plus to break down all those nitrates into nitrogen gass you need much more anaerobic areas. The amount of nitrates that algae are really composed of is rather low compared to the amount of potential nitrate leaking waste found in your skimmer.
How do u feel not having a protien skimmer leads to more life?
The amount of living material that your skimmer pulls out of the water is usually under 10% of the skimmate. Also skimmers increase the amount of dissolved oxygen, promoting even morelife in the reef. While the bi-products produced by the nitrogen cycle are partly organic acids that eventually lower pH and further more the bacteria that is involved in converting ammonia into nitrates consumes a fair amount of Oxygen
A tank that needs the pristine water conditions of an sps tank should have a skimmer present (if not at least something to control butrient other then live rock and algea; for example a nitrate reactor or phosphate reactor) Algae alone cant reduce nutrients to 0 in a fairly stocked sps tank (maybe you can get by with growth and ok color if you really limit your bioload).
After taking into consideration the need for sps to have low nutrients and realizing it is hard for all nitrates to break down to nitrogen gas or be absorbed by algae as well as phosphates; why would u not add a skimmer to aid this algae filter?
one thing i do not want to hear debated is that reefs can have nitrates......this is not debatable......
and i am not saying fuges, algae scrubbers or any of the sort are bad....i promote using them....but with the aid of a skimmer
we already know tanks need
.001 phosphates (or lower)
.001 nitrates (or lower)
and of coarse no nitrite or ammonia
only post if you have data....for example tests (using either a good test kit) that are valid or pictures of your tank...
please prove me wrong
Brad
Why would u set up a system skimmerless? When you can buy a large skimmer that is going to aid this filter and reduce nutrients to the proper levels?
In a tank like that you can get growth if lightly stocked but much better growth would be found with a skimmer
By the way i dont mean this as rude because i have a few skimmerless systems. But they need so much more time spent on them. If I was wanting a nice display tank for my house I would set up a skimmer.
It puzzles me why aquarist do this when skimmers have been proven and are run on the best systems in the world. Plus to break down all those nitrates into nitrogen gass you need much more anaerobic areas. The amount of nitrates that algae are really composed of is rather low compared to the amount of potential nitrate leaking waste found in your skimmer.
How do u feel not having a protien skimmer leads to more life?
The amount of living material that your skimmer pulls out of the water is usually under 10% of the skimmate. Also skimmers increase the amount of dissolved oxygen, promoting even morelife in the reef. While the bi-products produced by the nitrogen cycle are partly organic acids that eventually lower pH and further more the bacteria that is involved in converting ammonia into nitrates consumes a fair amount of Oxygen
A tank that needs the pristine water conditions of an sps tank should have a skimmer present (if not at least something to control butrient other then live rock and algea; for example a nitrate reactor or phosphate reactor) Algae alone cant reduce nutrients to 0 in a fairly stocked sps tank (maybe you can get by with growth and ok color if you really limit your bioload).
After taking into consideration the need for sps to have low nutrients and realizing it is hard for all nitrates to break down to nitrogen gas or be absorbed by algae as well as phosphates; why would u not add a skimmer to aid this algae filter?
one thing i do not want to hear debated is that reefs can have nitrates......this is not debatable......
and i am not saying fuges, algae scrubbers or any of the sort are bad....i promote using them....but with the aid of a skimmer
we already know tanks need
.001 phosphates (or lower)
.001 nitrates (or lower)
and of coarse no nitrite or ammonia
only post if you have data....for example tests (using either a good test kit) that are valid or pictures of your tank...
please prove me wrong
Brad
