Stocking help

wookiefever

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Hi there, I am starting up a 55 gallon tank (with 20g sump) that will initially be a FOWLR tank with the idea being a transition to reef. I have gone and picked some fish that I really like and was hoping to get some feedback on stocking suggestions. I am pretty sure that what I have picked will be overstocked.

Ocellaris Clownfish x2
Orchid Dottyback x2
Green Reef Chromis
Royal Gramma Basslet x2
Firefish x2
Six Line Wrasse
Green Mandarin
Blue Spotted Puffer
Lemon Butterflyfish
Red Sea Star
Tile Sea Star
Blue Tuxedo Urchin
Dwarf Colored Feather Duster
Scarlett Reef Hermit Crab
Chestnut Turbo Snail
Electric Blue Hermit Crab
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp


What do you guys think? Would it help to include an anemone from the beginning for the clownfish? What would you suggest?

I do not plan adding all the fish at once but slowly adding them over a period of time. All of the fish that I indicated as doubles will hopefully be purchased as a pair.
 
Hi there, I am starting up a 55 gallon tank (with 20g sump) that will initially be a FOWLR tank with the idea being a transition to reef. I have gone and picked some fish that I really like and was hoping to get some feedback on stocking suggestions. I am pretty sure that what I have picked will be overstocked.

Ocellaris Clownfish x2
Orchid Dottyback x2
Green Reef Chromis
Royal Gramma Basslet x2
Firefish x2
Six Line Wrasse
Green Mandarin
Blue Spotted Puffer
Lemon Butterflyfish
Red Sea Star
Tile Sea Star
Blue Tuxedo Urchin
Dwarf Colored Feather Duster
Scarlett Reef Hermit Crab
Chestnut Turbo Snail
Electric Blue Hermit Crab
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp


What do you guys think? Would it help to include an anemone from the beginning for the clownfish? What would you suggest?

I do not plan adding all the fish at once but slowly adding them over a period of time. All of the fish that I indicated as doubles will hopefully be purchased as a pair.

Ocellaris Clownfish x2 - could be a good selection
Orchid Dottyback x2 - Strongly encourage you to stay away from these. They will make you regret it. (they are little devils)
Green Reef Chromis - This could be okay. Keep in mind they are Damsels so they can eventually get aggressive as it gets older.
Royal Gramma Basslet x2 - Most keep 1 basslet, they may not get along. These can also clash with dottybacks.
Firefish x2 - Good for beginners and well anyone who likes them. Note they are more prone to jumping than other fish.
Six Line Wrasse - I LOVE wrasses but would recommend you to look into different ones than the six line because they can be little jerks. (Not always if properly fed, stocked, amount of LR, feedings, stock introduction order, ect ect)
Green Mandarin - You need to wait a while longer before you can get these. They will die without the proper micro fauna population in your tank. Let your refugium populate pods for a bit first, if you have one in your sump.
Blue Spotted Puffer - You said you wanted to go reef in the future? All puffers can munch on coral. There are some that try certain species of puffers in reef settings but its a huge risk. Also they are aggressive and can bully others in a community tank.
Lemon Butterflyfish - This is a decent beginner fish but can be a risk to corals sometimes and requires a bit bigger tank than what you have optimally.
Red Sea Star - I would recommend waiting for your tank parameters to become stable first and build up some film algae on LR, ect. A 55 may be a bit hard to keep a star fish healthy (unless mature and maybe supplementing its diet). I would also recommend avoiding Linkias if you can.
Tile Sea Star - Same as above. (I do have a tile sea star though and I love it, had it maybe a year now)
Blue Tuxedo Urchin - These guys are cool and a good CUC member.
Dwarf Colored Feather Duster - These are cool also kind of gross haha. Some fish can harass them such as wrasses and what not.
Scarlett Reef Hermit Crab - Crabs are always a risk but hermits are the safest bet.
Chestnut Turbo Snail - Snails are cool!
Electric Blue Hermit Crab - Same as above for hermits
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp - These guys are AWESOME.

There is obviously a lot of missing information and input on these but I'll go further in detail on any of them if you want. I'm sure others will chime in. Oh and yeah your list is over stocked but hey you gotta weigh your options right.
 
I'd be cautious about the Lemon in a 55g. Puffers can eat some inverts and shrimp maybe in the menu. The butterfly likes to swim and would definitely do better in a 75g. I definitely would not do a pair of dottybacks and basslets. These fish occupy the same area of the tank and are territorial and aggressive toward similar looking species. If you are lucky enough to successful pair dottybacks or basslets that would be cool. The safe bet here is 1 dottybacks or 1 basslet. Read up on how to pair them.

I'd go with one sea star and substitute a cucumber to maintain the sandbed. Turbo snails are workhorse but also bulldozers I've found the cerith snails are best and nassarius for sandbed maintenance. Urchins can also be bulldozers moving rocks and corals. The other thing in question is the mandarin and wrasse. They will compete for the love pods and this will end poorly for the mandarin. Furthermore, there my not be enough rock for the mandarin and a decent sized refugium for breeding pods would almost be mandatory to sustain one. Lastly, make sure you add the most aggressive fish last. Mated clowns are not nice fish. I had two clowns beat up a nice sized kole tang because they were already established and breeding. Clowns can also do well with leather corals. I had a pair in rhodactis mushrooms.

So, I think I chopped the list down to 9 fish which honestly is already pretty full and probably overstocked by many RC members standards.
 
No to the dottyback
No to the puffer
No to the starfish
No to the mandarin
No to the butterfly

The rest are fine
The grammas need to be put in the tank at the same time and must be of the same size
 
So what about this? Sorry, I am new to the whole saltwater scene but I just cannot avoid the beauty of it all.

Paired Clownfish
Royal Gramma Basslet x1
Firefish x2
Tile Sea Star x1
Blue Tuxedo Urchin x1
Cerith Snail x2
Nassarius Snail x2
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp x1

Then I would like some sort of show piece, this is where I was thinking about the mandarin later down the road. Any suggestions for a show piece? As for the snails, how many would I be able to keep in my tank. Do they stress the bioload much?

Thanks so much,
 
wetmorella type wrasse its my favourite fish and swims around all day eats anything
and a few trimma gobys very small but nice colors.
 
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Stocking help

The list looks 1000 times better IMHO. You've selected easy fish and a light bio load.

I know mandarins are very attractive and if you are new to saltwater I would avoid that fish for at least 1 year probably 2.

Do extensive research on that fish before you attempt it. Their mortality rate in the first 6-12 months is extremely high.

If you want a show fish I'd recommend a nice wrasse and dwarf angel. Extremely active and beautiful. Will easily take the eye of any viewers.

I'd also like to recommend a blenny. Great personalities. Easy to care for. Low disease and mortality rate. They will be your fish that stays low in the water column and perches on rocks. Highly recommend a lawnmower or starry blenny they will help with green hair algae which you are bound to have.
 
Most inverts do not stress the bioload system that much. You could add a lot of snails and not worry about it. However, providing them with enough food is usually the limiting factor. I've heard anything from 1 snail to every 1-5 gallons. It really depends on the tank. My last 75g had about 13 snails, 7 hermits, a sea cucumber and brittle star as the clean up crew.
 
Why ditch the starfish?

So if I were to add a Flameback angelfish and a Whip fin fairy wrasse (or two: M/F) I would be fine? Then add some sort of blenny for algae. Would I be hitting that overstocked mark again?

Thanks so much
 
Try to keep the list to 7 fish. If this is your first tank you'll want to make this as easy as possible with a light bioload. Furthermore, you don't want to overcrowd the tank and have territory issues.

Maybe instead of pairing O. Clowns you could get 1 unique or cool clown like a gold striped maroon clown or a snowflake clown? This may make enough room for another fish.

Are you going to QT the fish? I know when I first started I did not QT fish and I learned the hard way watching many fish die. Read up on proper quarantine of fish and treatment as you are bound to run into disease eventually.
 
When you say 7 fish what exactly do you count as a fish? Is the urchin or sea star counted in that? I would think about only getting one clown but the fiance loves clowns and wants a pair.

I was looking into some cleaner crews online and one website recommended that I get:
50 Dwarf Ceriths
17 Nassarius
17 Florida Ceriths
4 Hermits
16 Nerites

Doesnt that seem like major overkill? Like I know that having a bit extra is better than too few especially to start with but that is a LOT.

I do not have any plans for a QT currently, maybe I will end up turning my 10 gallon into a QT once the betta's are gone. Is it okay for a QT to share the same water with the main system? I have about 5 gallon in my sump as a fuge which I guess could be a QT if needed.

I honestly love this forum so much because you are all willing to answer my obscene amount of questions. So thank you all very much.
 
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