Struggling and need some advice!

Caesra

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OK, so bit of a delima and I have little to go on, but the basic jist.

Symptoms:
1) Stops eating
2) Starts gasping
3) Dies
4) Only have had fish affected (so far) that have been in direct contact with each other
4) Have seen white stringy poop on one (and only one of 9) of the fish that died.

No visible symptoms of any sort. Read below for more details.


I breed bangaii, among other fish, I have a few paris that are in my breeding system and seem to be doing just fine, popping out babies.

I bought some wild caughts awhile back to try to form some new young pairs. They went into QT and did fine, kept them in there for roughly 4 weeks. I lost one in the first few days, but I am pretty sure that was my fault, as his reaction going into the QT was not good, and was down hill from there.

In any event, after the QT, they Bangaii were moved into the breeding system to pair up. About a week later, one stopped eating and started spending his time in the corner. After a few days he began 'gasping', then died within a few days.

This concerned me, but he was removed and all seemed to be going fine. So I added some captives in with the wilds to add to the possible mix. Then about a week later, antoher bangaii (a wild one) had the same thing happen, then a week later, another. This repeated until all of the wilds were gone and I was left with my Captives.

Everything seemed to calm down for a few weeks. Then one of my captives had the same thing happen, and now I am down to my last captive that was introduced with the wild. He is still alive, but not doing well. Expect him to die tonight.

So big issue, these fish have been in both my breeding system (with many other fish..so far no signs of issue with any...except for one baby, i.e. 3 months, in another tank that appears to have stopped eating today...so I am watching)

I have treated the breeding system with PraziPro, as the symptoms seemed to fit an internal parasite.

For those who have bangaiis, you know that when they are undergoing a body stress they tend to turn brownish. This is prevalant during acclimation & breeding. All of the fish that have died have had this happen as well, usually about one day before they stopped eating.

Any help, would be very much appreciated.
 
The "white stringy poop" makes me think Flukes and to treat with Prazipro. I learned the hard way that just one or sometimes even two consecutive treatments of Prazipro isn't enough because it doesn't kill the eggs. I had to treat a PB Tang 4 consecutive times, 5 days apart, to finally eradicate all the Flukes.
 
That was my original thought. The bottle, and many people suggest that one treatment is enough. So I wasn't sure if I should try to treat again. The one currently with issue is looking pretty bad tonight, so I expect him to be gone by morning. He has been under treatment for 4 days. As I understand the medicine, he should have seen some sign of improvement.

The stringy poop has only appeared on one bangai...the only reason it had caught my attention is because I never see poop hanging from my bangai..other fish..from time to time, not the bangaii.
 
One thing that's important to do in-between treatments is WCs. All the resulting die-off pollutes the water and starves the tank of oxygen.
 
OK, all you experts =)

Still hoping for some more advice. The one CB juvie has definately stopped eating...so now I am worried this has made it out of the tank that it seemed isolated in.

I still am not convinced at all that it is flukes, as there are none of the additional corresponding symptoms that seem typical.

Not to mention this juvie started symptoms after a prazi treatment had been underway for several days.
 
Frozen foods.

Params are all norm, alk and calc a little low, but is breeding system.

ph:8.2, Ammonia:0 Nitrite: 0 Nitrate: 20 Alk 6.5 Calc 380 Salinity 1.020
 
sounds like the classic iridovirus that wipes out Banggai populations. Wild caught Banggai seem to carry it and like fish tuberculosis, there is no known treatment. Dr Roy Yanong at the UF Tropical Aquaculture lab in Ruskin FL has done some research on identifying it. You may have to disinfect and start your breeding system over. This is why captive bred Banggai are in high demand
 
oh ok i wasnt sure thats why i asked i seen u said u were breeding bangaii i just didnt know thats all we were talking about
 
So far I have not seen any symptoms of any sort on the other fish in the system. *crosses fingers*.

I have new pairs of other fish to add, but I am leaving them in QT until I figure out what is going on.
 
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