Super Glue Info Please
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pookstreet
Registered Stick Killer
Epoxy would work much better. Get the Aquamend from HD. Much cheaper than getting it from your LFS. That stuff works great for me and I know others who have used it for years. Good luck.
Put a glob of SG on the rock where you want to mount it. Put a glob of glue on the bottom of the coral frag (when outside the water). Put the frag in the water and place it on top of (push into) the blob on the rock. Gently twist 1/4 turn or so, to break through the skin that forms on the SG under water, and you should have glue-on-glue, which will bond nicely.
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Al G Blenny
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From what I hear epoxy is not good to use on a fresh cut frag. It supposedly can have a lot of bacteria on it that will cause the frag to RTN. I have glued lots of frags with superglue gel under water. It works great. Plus the epoxy isn't adhesive. A lot of the time the frag will come loose. When you put the SGG under water it does harden right away but only the surface. You actually get a bubble of gel that way. As long as you push the frag on the rock and break the surface of the newly formed "skin" of glue, the frag will hold.
ScotchMaster
In Memoriam
Sorry to break it to you guys but super glue gel also creates a lot of heat just like the epoxy does...
I use super glue gel outside the tank and aquamend epoxy in the tank with no problems
I use super glue gel outside the tank and aquamend epoxy in the tank with no problems
REMF
Premium Member
Are you sure you want to glue it to such a large rock? Once glued you will not be able to move it later.
Y not get some rubble rock or a plug and then glue it out of the tank and then submerge in water to flash dry the SG gell. Then epoxy it to your live rock, that way if you do decide to move it later you can.
Y not get some rubble rock or a plug and then glue it out of the tank and then submerge in water to flash dry the SG gell. Then epoxy it to your live rock, that way if you do decide to move it later you can.
Unarce
Unshackled
I've always been partial to super glue gel, and have never been afraid to use a lot of it. Primarily because it's a lot cleaner and is easy to use underwater.
Just be sure the super glue gell you choose is the acrylic resin, cyanoacrylate. Cyanoacrylate is a medical grade glue that forms a strong, structural bond in water.
I like using Insta-Cure, which is made by BSI, Inc.
Just be sure the super glue gell you choose is the acrylic resin, cyanoacrylate. Cyanoacrylate is a medical grade glue that forms a strong, structural bond in water.
I like using Insta-Cure, which is made by BSI, Inc.
dreaminmel
New member
Ditto, I've used that same gel with all 22 of my acro frags with no issues whatsoever. I even ended up using it w/ my 8 head frogspawn because the epoxy just wasn't holding.
And, if you do decide to relocate later it takes less effort to snap the frag off than to try fitting an attached rock into the perfect spot. This only works if they need to be relocated prior to them encrusting the surrounding rockwork though...
And, if you do decide to relocate later it takes less effort to snap the frag off than to try fitting an attached rock into the perfect spot. This only works if they need to be relocated prior to them encrusting the surrounding rockwork though...
grallster
New member
Personally, I think that super glue gel works a hell of alot better than epoxy. Epoxy really only seems to work well for me if there is a hole to stick the frag in with the epoxy around it.
I even prefer to super glue the frag to a small rock and then super glue the rock where I want the frag. I'm never afraid of using liberal amounts of the glue either.
Just my $.02
I even prefer to super glue the frag to a small rock and then super glue the rock where I want the frag. I'm never afraid of using liberal amounts of the glue either.
Just my $.02
dots
Premium Member
Use the gel. Try to get the rock to water level if you can, if not, I dab some on the frag and let it set, creates a place for the big glob I am about to put on. Let it a second and push it into place. A big glob will not set up immediatly under water, and you can put her where you want. I have been experimenting with the underwater style and if you push out a glob and "weld" it down, works adequately.
Drawback....go through the stuff like crazy!!
I find the SPS encrust over the glue more readily than epoxy.
Cool thing is that the coralline will cover it in a few weeks and look like it had always been there.
Drawback....go through the stuff like crazy!!
I find the SPS encrust over the glue more readily than epoxy.
Cool thing is that the coralline will cover it in a few weeks and look like it had always been there.
thebicyclecafe
New member
Here's a way I like to do it. Mount the frag with superglue to a small disk or plug outside of the tank, then attach the disk or plug with attached coral (break off the stub if it's a plug) with Aquamend to your rockwork. That way you have a secure bond and won't have to make the frag come in contact with epoxy, and also you will not have to superglue underwater.
Al G Blenny
New member
The Gel heats and cools very quickly where as the epoxy stays hot for some time. Plus the epoxy gets much hotter.
MiddletonMark
Premium Member
Nevermind normally you'd need to use a much thicker/larger volume of epoxy - meaning more heat, more concentrated.
Often only a thin skin of superglue is needed IME. Of course, sometimes that requires getting half the tube on your hands/other parts of the mount
I've not had such issues - but prefer to mount my frags onto rubble/small rocks - which I can then epoxy/glue/wedge that into the rockscape. Have a hand-hold for positioning, for future fragging - and eventually it will grow over that rock onto another rock itself.
Either way, mount it securely. IME it's easy to lose new frags to being knocked off their mounts into the rocks/another coral/etc than through anything else. Turbos, crabs, fish ... glue securely and keep tabs on them until well encrusted.
Often only a thin skin of superglue is needed IME. Of course, sometimes that requires getting half the tube on your hands/other parts of the mount
I've not had such issues - but prefer to mount my frags onto rubble/small rocks - which I can then epoxy/glue/wedge that into the rockscape. Have a hand-hold for positioning, for future fragging - and eventually it will grow over that rock onto another rock itself.
Either way, mount it securely. IME it's easy to lose new frags to being knocked off their mounts into the rocks/another coral/etc than through anything else. Turbos, crabs, fish ... glue securely and keep tabs on them until well encrusted.
