The 11 Skunk Clowns and Red Haddoni Update

That is a very unique scape you have there, I love the Xenia in the background, it gives it a real sense of depth. \

If you don't mind me asking, how do you prevent the substrate from spreading out?
 
Josh40996 said:
That is a very unique scape you have there, I love the Xenia in the background, it gives it a real sense of depth. \

If you don't mind me asking, how do you prevent the substrate from spreading out?
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Thanks Josh40996. I used small rocks to form a circle and then put the substrate on top of them.
 
any plan to add more sand and carpet? yeah would love to see how they works out in long term, i always done is have a pair then add more juveniles and let the pair decide who stay and who goes.
my last group of b/w. they live togather well over 1.5 years without any issue, i sold off the others when i upgrade my tank.
 
ClownNut said:
any plan to add more sand and carpet? yeah would love to see how they works out in long term, i always done is have a pair then add more juveniles and let the pair decide who stay and who goes.
my last group of b/w. they live togather well over 1.5 years without any issue, i sold off the others when i upgrade my tank.
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ClownNut, there is no more room for more sand and carpet.
The tank is 40"x36". The sand dune is about 30"x30" now.
I want to have room for the carpet to grow as big as possible.
 
Deepsea2005 said:
ClownNut, there is no more room for more sand and carpet.
The tank is 40"x36". The sand dune is about 30"x30" now.
I want to have room for the carpet to grow as big as possible.
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cool, the biggest red haddoni i saw was 2' across in stan's 1600g. TOTM Jan 2008. it was super nice to see such big carpet in person.:D
 
I LOVE it! How old are your clowns?

I've been thinking of swapping out my 3 chocolate clowns for a school of different ones, was thinking of skunks, with my mertens. I wonder if size has anything to do with a school of them living together "peacefully"? Your carpet looks very happy. Thanks for sharing! Please update if you change things/fish around.
 
taylor t said:
I LOVE it! How old are your clowns?

I've been thinking of swapping out my 3 chocolate clowns for a school of different ones, was thinking of skunks, with my mertens. I wonder if size has anything to do with a school of them living together "peacefully"? Your carpet looks very happy. Thanks for sharing! Please update if you change things/fish around.
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Thanks taylor t. I bought them about 4 months ago. Now, the smallest is one inche, and the biggest is about 2 inches.
Is it save to say that they are about a year old?
 
Keeping a Harem

Keeping a Harem

Keeping a harem of clowns long term is going to def involve some thining of the herd.

As one clown begins to become dominant she will force the others out to the outer area of the anemone. Till some clowns are actually swimming above and around the carpet.

If the fish do not get the point there will be some chasing till death. You will most likely end up with 3-5 clowns.

A Female
A male
2-3 Juvis who are waiting to take someones place.

I tried this with a Luecokranos, sandricinos and a blue stripe.

A large bonnet, three small orange skunks and a juvi blue stripe.

All that was left a year later was the large bonnet, 1 orange skunk and the blue stripe.

Your actually watching what really happens in nature live.
 
Reefvette said:
Keeping a harem of clowns long term is going to def involve some thining of the herd.

As one clown begins to become dominant she will force the others out to the outer area of the anemone. Till some clowns are actually swimming above and around the carpet.

If the fish do not get the point there will be some chasing till death. You will most likely end up with 3-5 clowns.

A Female
A male
2-3 Juvis who are waiting to take someones place.

I tried this with a Luecokranos, sandricinos and a blue stripe.

A large bonnet, three small orange skunks and a juvi blue stripe.

All that was left a year later was the large bonnet, 1 orange skunk and the blue stripe.

Your actually watching what really happens in nature live.
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Reefvette,

Thanks for the info. I am prepared for the worst.
I will separate them as soon they are start fingting.
 
It is an interesting setup, but unfortunately as others have stated, you are looking at impending failure to a certain degree. The likelihood that you will be able to separate the clowns before one dies may not be as high as you believe. Understand that the time you spend looking at the tank everyday is a fraction of 24 hours, and it is entirely likely for you to come home to less clowns than when you went to work.

Keeping multiple clowns in a single tank has always been a point of contention on this forum. From time-to-time individuals post cases like this where they believe their outcomes will be different than before. If you look at Mobert's thread 27 clowns for 27 months, even she was losing fish. I greatly applaud her for being up-front enough and honest enough to share the experience, but unfortunately IMHO threads like this end up encouraging others to do the same - not educate others. I was actually happy to see it removed as a sticky, and harem tanks have declined since.

Even if you are educated and equipped to handle problems, others who follow may not be. Please make sure to be clear with how things are going, and recognize that you may very well not see aggression for 1-1.5 years (i.e. 6 months is not success), but it will eventually happen. If you just want to observe nature take its course, you have a nice looking tank to do so - but you should recognize that you more than likely are condemning one/several of those fish to death at some point.
 
Are you finding the dead damsils? I had 7 cromis in a tank and lost 1 every day or 2 till they were gone. I assumed the carpet got them during the night.
 
bues0022 said:
It is an interesting setup, but unfortunately as others have stated, you are looking at impending failure to a certain degree. The likelihood that you will be able to separate the clowns before one dies may not be as high as you believe. Understand that the time you spend looking at the tank everyday is a fraction of 24 hours, and it is entirely likely for you to come home to less clowns than when you went to work.

Keeping multiple clowns in a single tank has always been a point of contention on this forum. From time-to-time individuals post cases like this where they believe their outcomes will be different than before. If you look at Mobert's thread 27 clowns for 27 months, even she was losing fish. I greatly applaud her for being up-front enough and honest enough to share the experience, but unfortunately IMHO threads like this end up encouraging others to do the same - not educate others. I was actually happy to see it removed as a sticky, and harem tanks have declined since.

Even if you are educated and equipped to handle problems, others who follow may not be. Please make sure to be clear with how things are going, and recognize that you may very well not see aggression for 1-1.5 years (i.e. 6 months is not success), but it will eventually happen. If you just want to observe nature take its course, you have a nice looking tank to do so - but you should recognize that you more than likely are condemning one/several of those fish to death at some point.
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bues0022, thanks for your info. I will take a really close watch on the tank.
 
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