This is driving me insane!!!!!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15273935#post15273935 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sanababit
This is almost what happened to a fellow reefer of mine, his monties died (digitata, capricornis, encrusting, etc), they lost color and stn'd, he found out that his system had a potassium deficiency which made them really fragile and pale, soon after they died....check it out you might be surprised

Oh i made a mistake it wasn't potasium it was a strontium deficiency, i talked to my friend and noticed the error sorry...

sana
 
although may recoms have already been made

it wouldnt hurt to run POLYPAD
to see if there might be some 'metals' etc in the water column perhaps leaking out of some of the rock or sandbed etc... polypad is good stuff and imo good practice to run occasionally to remove any 'nasties' from the water column!

good luck.

regards
 
Agreed on the poly pad. I need to get some.

Besides metals, what other compounds (good ones) will it remove from the water?
 
I don't have much to add but I thought I would chime in with a few things for you to think about.

First off redbugs. I bought a frag at a fragswap in January. My father was injured the previous day and I only went to pick up a frag that I promised I would buy from a fellow reefer. While there I thought I might as well pick up a couple more so I did. I got home and needed to get to the hospital and put them in the newly set up tank without dipping because I was in a hurry. These corals all looked fantastic so I figured they were safe.

I noticed redbugs on one of the acros bought from the other guys. Colors quickly faded. I have not seen redbugs since and they were plain as day. I assume they didn't go away on their own and my colors have not returned on the pieces.

Outcome: I need to get some interceptor. I believe just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. These things are common and all frags are suspect as far as I am concerned.

Your TDS should never read more than 0. I would replace your di resin and do large waterchanges (and run a polyfilter) and keep that water clean from here on out. .006 ppm doesn't sound like much but who knows what that .006ppm is? Could be a big part of the problem.

I don't think this is part of the issue at hand but that skimmer is way undersized for the amount of water you have. I would think about replacing it once you get things back on track. I was running a modded G3 on a 75 gallon and it didn't pull anywhere near the amount of nog as my newer skimmer does.

Good luck with fixing your tank up. Otherwise it looks great!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281725#post15281725 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CeeGee
I don't have much to add but I thought I would chime in with a few things for you to think about.

First off redbugs. I bought a frag at a fragswap in January. My father was injured the previous day and I only went to pick up a frag that I promised I would buy from a fellow reefer. While there I thought I might as well pick up a couple more so I did. I got home and needed to get to the hospital and put them in the newly set up tank without dipping because I was in a hurry. These corals all looked fantastic so I figured they were safe.

I noticed redbugs on one of the acros bought from the other guys. Colors quickly faded. I have not seen redbugs since and they were plain as day. I assume they didn't go away on their own and my colors have not returned on the pieces.

Outcome: I need to get some interceptor. I believe just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. These things are common and all frags are suspect as far as I am concerned.

Your TDS should never read more than 0. I would replace your di resin and do large waterchanges (and run a polyfilter) and keep that water clean from here on out. .006 ppm doesn't sound like much but who knows what that .006ppm is? Could be a big part of the problem.

I don't think this is part of the issue at hand but that skimmer is way undersized for the amount of water you have. I would think about replacing it once you get things back on track. I was running a modded G3 on a 75 gallon and it didn't pull anywhere near the amount of nog as my newer skimmer does.

Good luck with fixing your tank up. Otherwise it looks great!

I agree with the above, but in order of priority I would say pests (red bugs), then tds, then skimmer.

I've had acros come fully back to life after I treated for red bugs. It was amazing to me how devastating they were. Such little creatures, such big impact.

As if it's not enough to think about/deal with, upon looking at your tank. I don't see that it's overstocked at all. Good thing, this means there should be enough nutrients to go around and doesn't get sucked up too quickly. But what concerned me the most is that it doesn't seems to be very mature and also seem a little too "sterile". You might look into dosing beneficial bacteria for your tank such as prodibio, vodka, amino acids. But use this stuff with caution, know what your putting into your tank and why.
 
On the red bug subject, I have had the opportunity to look at the donor colony multiple times since I received my frags, and there is no evidence of parasitic activity anywhere on this coral. This Montipora occupies the area of a frisbee and has up-shoots coming off of it that are 4-5" in height. It is a spectacular specimen. Also, the parent colony's color is outstanding and growth a problem for the owner at this point. So, I'm not too inclined to lean the direction of parasites at this point, although I'll keep my eyes open.

I agree with you on the TDS. I plan to change out all media in my RODI system soon.

A bigger skimmer would be nice, but how do you know what size is the right size? I'm trying to stop spending money on hardware, if you know what I mean.
 
I have to agree with Todd here. I found the exact same looking asternia star on the base of a birdsnest frag, there was a small amount of tissue gone just around where it was.
 
I've had asternia stars in my tank from day one, and I've never had this problem before. Do the stars eat the tissue, or do the stars eat the algae/slime that opportunistically grabs a hold of the fresh substrate?

There have been no stars on the Montipora.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283549#post15283549 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LouH
I've had asternia stars in my tank from day one, and I've never had this problem before. Do the stars eat the tissue, or do the stars eat the algae/slime that opportunistically grabs a hold of the fresh substrate?

There have been no stars on the Montipora.

From what I understand, there are hundreds of different types of asternia, some do eat coral tissue. Finding out which are which is near on impossible from what i've read apart from looking at where they hang out.

It's in the zoa forum, but still relevant to this topic. A couple people have mentioned they have caught asternias eating SPS (me being one of them)

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1653097
 
I'll need to read up on all of the links you guys have provided. I'e been doing this long enough to know that just because I haven't seen it does not mean that it does not exist/happen. Thanks for your help on this guys. I appreciate it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281829#post15281829 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aquariumclown
I agree with the above, but in order of priority I would say pests (red bugs), then tds, then skimmer.

I've had acros come fully back to life after I treated for red bugs. It was amazing to me how devastating they were. Such little creatures, such big impact.

As if it's not enough to think about/deal with, upon looking at your tank. I don't see that it's overstocked at all. Good thing, this means there should be enough nutrients to go around and doesn't get sucked up too quickly. But what concerned me the most is that it doesn't seems to be very mature and also seem a little too "sterile". You might look into dosing beneficial bacteria for your tank such as prodibio, vodka, amino acids. But use this stuff with caution, know what your putting into your tank and why.

If you read my post they are in that exact order of priority ;)

Also if you read my post it states that I blatantly saw red bugs and they seem to have vanished. I know they didn't just go away and I have been told that they can hide and still be present wreaking havoc.

As far as a skimmer I am trying to stop buying hardware myself but after seeing what other peoples skimmers pull out and what my ASM (that was larger than yours on a smaller system) was pulling I decided to get with the newer better technology in todays skimmers. I consider ASM and Euroreef yesterdays skimmers. I decided on a cone skimmer actually a ATB. After months and months of waiting for ATB to get more small models in stock I found the i-Tech's which have just as good performance, much cheaper prices, and are made in America with great craftsmanship (a rarity). Forgot to add that the customer service was top notch. The guy was packing it in the box to ship it to me before he had my payment information. It was a no brainer.
 
i-tech, I've never heard of them, buy I'll take a look. Thanks for the tip.

BTW, none of my algae has ever been special.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15284783#post15284783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LouH
i-tech, I've never heard of them, buy I'll take a look. Thanks for the tip.

BTW, none of my algae has ever been special.

Neither was mine as it wasn't algae it was a bacteria that literally drove me nuts for over 3 years. Read all about it here.
 
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