Treating Ich

[dogum1999]

I am currently on day 5 of hyposalinity of 1.090 and one of my wrasses is very lathargic and breathing heavy. What is causing this and is there anything I can do to help? I have lots of bubbles being pumpped into the tank so i don't think its and oxygen thing.

 

[Gwynhidwy]

What are your water parameters? Are you using any other medications with the hyposalinity treatment?

pH often drops considerably in hyposalinity so that is something to check. Ammonia is often a problem as well. What fish are you treating? What size of tank are they in for treatment? What sort of filtration are you using? Is the tank cycled?

 

[dogum1999]

I have 4 chromis, 2 clownfish, 1 diamond pawn goby, 1 clown goby, Tomini tang, and a leopard wrasse. My other wrasse with the breathing problem didn't make it through the night. The tank is not cycled. I am using a whisper filter. the fish are in a 20g tank. Saturday i did a 40% water change and yesterday i did a 30% water change. I plan on doing daily water changes of 20% or more for the next 4-6 weeks.

 

[Gwynhidwy]

Based on the stocking of your treatment tank, I would guess that ammonia is the culprit, or possibly even stress. That is a lot of fish to put in a small, uncycled tank. If you aren't already, I would suggest getting water test kits to test your parameters and testing morning and night with water changes to keep ammonia at 0.

 

[wooden_reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15543807#post15543807 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dogum1999
The tank is not cycled. I am using a whisper filter. the fish are in a 20g tank. Saturday i did a 40% water change and yesterday i did a 30% water change. I plan on doing daily water changes of 20% or more for the next 4-6 weeks.

Doing 20-40% water change in general does not remove enough ammonia. Just a matter of number, fraction. 0.2 vs 0.4 ppm ammonia, say, does not resolve the fundamental problem.

Medium in QT should be cycled, perhaps even more so, than medium in DT, as the demand per unit weight or volume of the medium is greater.

In the past, decades ago, I had done 100% water change. I used Instant Ocean and RO water. I made sure that the temp is with 2 degrees. All fish were fine. I transfered them by hand when I was sure that I won't be hurt by spines or venom. I never use a net to tranfer fish, otherwise.

 

[wooden_reefer]

Use Amquel perhaps.

I called Kordon once. I believe Amquel does not bind Cu.

If you are using hypo, you can safely use Amquel.

The most I had used it was for about ten days, on a butterfly fish many years ago with an anitbiotic that will harm nitrification bacteria; that was why there was no cycled medium, and only then.

 

[wooden_reefer]

BTW, if you don't already know, Cu at level to treat ich has little impact on nitrification bacteria.

During eradication of ich with Cu, nitrification will proceed as usual. That is why the medium for QT must be, can be, cycled.

Incidentally, I feel hypo is not quite a sure as Cu, IMO.