Treating ick with copper
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geaux xman
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are you using cupramine? it should be at 0.5ppm. I would double check the copper level, and if its still 1.0ppm, try to do a 50% WC.
how many days has it been under copper?
how many days has it been under copper?
msman825
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X2 saw in another thread he was using coppersafe
Thanks guys for the comments/suggestions. I agree that treating the tank without knowing my target level is risky but considering how close to dead the emperor has been, I needed to do something. This is why I am trying to get it figured out now. The hospital tank has been up for two days and the emperor is still with us. He shows just a tad bit of activity and I will try to feed him later today. I can do a 50% wc in the main tank but that still doesn't tell me what the proper copper tratment level should be. Once I know that, I can manage the tank at the right therapeudic level to control the disease.
geaux xman
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how big is the tank that the copper is in? the reason for the 50% WC is b/c thats well beyond toxic on the fish. the therapeutic range is 0.3-0.5.
RegalAngel
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Directions for Use:
Use 5 ml for 4 gallons of water. Loosen measuring chamber cap and squeeze bottle to fill to desired level. One application treats water for one month. DO NOT overdose.
Active Ingredients: Chelated Copper Sulfate.
Precautions: CopperSafe may be harmful to plants and some snails. If possible, remove plants and invertebrates without an exoskeleton from the aquarium. Otherwise, treat fish in a separate quarantine tank. Keep out of reach of children. For aquarium use only.
CopperSafe is intended for the exclusive use with ornamental fish and/or ornamental organisms and is not intended for use with humans or fish for human consumption.
Benefit: CopperSafe is a chelated copper compound that is used for the treatment of infections of Ick, Flukes (Gyrodactylus), Anchor Worms, Velvet/Protozoan diseases and other external parasites.
CopperSafe, when used as directed, maintains a total copper level of 1.5 ppm to 2.0 ppm in the water. CopperSafe remains active for over one month in the aquarium. Levels of 0.3 ppm free copper are recommended in the literature for therapeutic use, but with Coppersafe, the levels of free copper will be measured at 1.5 ppm to 2.0 ppm. This level of copper can be used in the treatment of fish due to Coppersafe's unique chelating agent. The chelating agent binds with the copper making it nontoxic to fish but effective against parasites. CopperSafe does not discolor the water and will not interfere with the biological filter
Use: CopperSafe should be used when a diagnosis of the fish's illness indicates the presence of Ick, Flukes (Gyrodactylus), Anchor Worms, Velvet/ Protozoan Diseases and other external freshwater parasites.
NOTE: CopperSafe may cause an adverse reaction with some sensitive invertebrates. Invertebrates without an exoskeleton such as jellyfish and anemones should be removed before treatment. CopperSafe may be harmful to plants, amphibians, and snails.
A chelated or total copper test kit is required to measure CopperSafe. Coppersafe may cause inaccurate free copper readings when using certain test kits. All readings should be based on the total copper or chelated copper results and not the free copper results.
Coppersafe is safe to use with UV Sterilizers, Protein Skimmers, Wet/Dry and Diatomaceous earth filters. After treatment, Coppersafe can be removed from the aquarium by water changes, fresh activated carbon or other chemical filtration resins/pads.
Use 5 ml for 4 gallons of water. Loosen measuring chamber cap and squeeze bottle to fill to desired level. One application treats water for one month. DO NOT overdose.
Active Ingredients: Chelated Copper Sulfate.
Precautions: CopperSafe may be harmful to plants and some snails. If possible, remove plants and invertebrates without an exoskeleton from the aquarium. Otherwise, treat fish in a separate quarantine tank. Keep out of reach of children. For aquarium use only.
CopperSafe is intended for the exclusive use with ornamental fish and/or ornamental organisms and is not intended for use with humans or fish for human consumption.
Benefit: CopperSafe is a chelated copper compound that is used for the treatment of infections of Ick, Flukes (Gyrodactylus), Anchor Worms, Velvet/Protozoan diseases and other external parasites.
CopperSafe, when used as directed, maintains a total copper level of 1.5 ppm to 2.0 ppm in the water. CopperSafe remains active for over one month in the aquarium. Levels of 0.3 ppm free copper are recommended in the literature for therapeutic use, but with Coppersafe, the levels of free copper will be measured at 1.5 ppm to 2.0 ppm. This level of copper can be used in the treatment of fish due to Coppersafe's unique chelating agent. The chelating agent binds with the copper making it nontoxic to fish but effective against parasites. CopperSafe does not discolor the water and will not interfere with the biological filter
Use: CopperSafe should be used when a diagnosis of the fish's illness indicates the presence of Ick, Flukes (Gyrodactylus), Anchor Worms, Velvet/ Protozoan Diseases and other external freshwater parasites.
NOTE: CopperSafe may cause an adverse reaction with some sensitive invertebrates. Invertebrates without an exoskeleton such as jellyfish and anemones should be removed before treatment. CopperSafe may be harmful to plants, amphibians, and snails.
A chelated or total copper test kit is required to measure CopperSafe. Coppersafe may cause inaccurate free copper readings when using certain test kits. All readings should be based on the total copper or chelated copper results and not the free copper results.
Coppersafe is safe to use with UV Sterilizers, Protein Skimmers, Wet/Dry and Diatomaceous earth filters. After treatment, Coppersafe can be removed from the aquarium by water changes, fresh activated carbon or other chemical filtration resins/pads.
MrTuskfish
Team RC
Copper is nothing to "guess' with. All copper isn't dosed the same. the difference is critical. You have to find the right dosage, right test kit, and maintain the level. Don't want to sound nasty; but you have a great fish about ready to die and you can't find the dosage on the bottle, packaging, or call the dealer where you got the copper, or goggle and find the phone # of the mfg, etc. Here are the instructions from the F&S website, click "more information. I guess I have the same info as RegalAngel...read his post again; 1.0 is not okay. When using copper, close isn't good enough.
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4721
A world of information
A world of information
As I read the posts from those more experienced than me, I am finding there are dozens of opinions on the treatment of ick. What worked for one person may mean disaster for another. Unfortunately the life of the fish is what hangs in the balance. The goal is to keep the guys alive and healthy as long as possible by making the right decisions. Sometimes you win and most times you lose but the best thing is to have tried.
The Emperor shows a little more gill movement which I hope means he is turning around. He still has a long way to go so I must be patient. His fins and gills look as though they have been clipped but this may be due to the infection. He may or may not come out of this.
I will continue to monitor and update those who may be tracking this. After all...what I learn may help someone else.:fish1:
A world of information
As I read the posts from those more experienced than me, I am finding there are dozens of opinions on the treatment of ick. What worked for one person may mean disaster for another. Unfortunately the life of the fish is what hangs in the balance. The goal is to keep the guys alive and healthy as long as possible by making the right decisions. Sometimes you win and most times you lose but the best thing is to have tried.
The Emperor shows a little more gill movement which I hope means he is turning around. He still has a long way to go so I must be patient. His fins and gills look as though they have been clipped but this may be due to the infection. He may or may not come out of this.
I will continue to monitor and update those who may be tracking this. After all...what I learn may help someone else.:fish1:
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