Trip to the lfs...Decisions, decisions!?!

reverendmaynard

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Hey everyone,

I went to the lfs last night to get some more fish for my now 8 week old 125g reef tank. It's only 8 weeks, but the tank and all the LR were purchased used, and had been running for like 10 years. I kept everything alive in totes with filters and heaters while I setup the tank, for about 3 weeks, and I never really saw an ammonia or nitrite spike, despite almost daily testing.

The tank has about 150lbs of LR, a 40gal sump with fuge, a DIY CC skimmer (still tweaking, but I do get some skimmate), and a 5gal RDSB. I've got 4x160w VHO lights, powered by 2 icecap 660s. Normally I only run 2 bulbs (1 actinic blue, 1 50/50), and turn on the other two for an hour or two a day (1 50/50 and a trichromatic). For flow, I use a QO 6000 for return, plumbed to 9 outlets, most coming up from under the sand bed, with a MJ1200 and a AC500 for additional flow. I've got a QO3000 pump coming, because my overflow and sump are a little under-plumbed for the 6000, and will be using the 6000 on a CL.

My current livestock consists of 1 3" yellow tang, 1 3" blue hippo tang, 1 1.5" maroon clown, and 1 1.5" royal gramma. I also have half a dozen hawiian zebra microhermits, 20 or so assorted snails (trochus, strombus, and cerith), and 2 skunk cleaner shrimp, and some anthelia polyps.

My water params are:
0 amm
0 nitrite
20ppm nitrate
0 PO4
3.5meq alk
460ppm calc
1150 ppm mg
Ph 8.1-8.2

I picked out and put on hold a larger maroon clown (2-2.5"), a 4" foxface rabbitfish, and a haitian pink tip anemone.

The plan is to put the clown and foxface into a 30gal tote as a qt, and put my existing clown in there as well. Hopefully, the clowns will get to know one another during that time and stick together once introduced into the display.

I'm not sure on the anemone though. The haitian (4-5" diameter) is $15, but they also had a BTA (brownish with green tips, 3-4" diameter) for $50. They also have a good selection of corals, including a couple of toadstools (3-4" diameter) for $50 each, and a nice torch (4 or 5 heads, 4" tall) , also about $50 I believe.

I know the clowns won't host in a torch, but since I'm not putting the clowns directly in the display, I could get a hosting animal later.

So what type of invert do you all recommend? Any other comments on my choices/setup/plan?

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I'm guessing that you are going to have troubles with getting the maroon clowns to pair up and get along. I think I would wait on the anemone and find a good looking GBTA or RBTA. You will also have to remember that the anemone will move around and kill any coral in its path.

BTW the tank looks real good!!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6807549#post6807549 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dubbin1
I'm guessing that you are going to have troubles with getting the maroon clowns to pair up and get along. I think I would wait on the anemone and find a good looking GBTA or RBTA. You will also have to remember that the anemone will move around and kill any coral in its path.

BTW the tank looks real good!!!

Thanks Dubbin, still a work in progress, but it's getting there. Coralline's really taken off since I switched to the VHOs and began dosing with a 2 part.

On the clowns... I'm going on the theory that since one is already quite a bit larger than the other, they won't fight over dominance, but just slip into their respective roles. That and putting them together at the same time as they are introduced to a strange tank, will hopefully help them get along. If it doesn't work out, I'll just take one back, I guess.

Are you saying I shouldn't get the BTA they have?

Do you think my system is stable enough for a torch?

Nitrates too high for any of these inverts?
 
I see no reason why you can't get a torch. As far as the BTA goes I would wait until they had something that isn't brown.
 
well. the clown you have probably already took on the female role. so what you would have to do is buy a juvinle clown and go through a painstakingly slow proces of getting them to pair. Once one takes on the female sex it can't go back. If it was in the tank by itself for a month or two, it is a female.


as for the host. my clowns pefer a clump of hair algae, but i recently stuck an umbrella leather in there and i think they might take to it. I don't see why you can't get a torch also.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6807797#post6807797 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dubbin1
I see no reason why you can't get a torch. As far as the BTA goes I would wait until they had something that isn't brown.

LOL! That's what I was thinking! Why did I spend thousands of dollars and countless hours setting up a SW tank so I can get brown critters? I can get plenty of brown in FW!

I like the look of the haitian a lot better, but the chances of the clowns safely hosting are slimmer, it's supposed to wander more, and be more of a danger to other inhabitants than a BTA.

I think I might go with a toadstool for now. They had a nice lime green one, with yellowish bumps. If the clowns don't like it, I can try an anemone then.
 
The torch would be fine. You may want to run those other other two bulbs for 4-6 hours though.

If you really wnt the BTA you could get it. Getting it before purchasing other corals is a good idea. Once the BTA settles you can add other corals and not have to worry about the BTA walking on them.

Being this rock has been established for 10 years I think your tank will be very stable. Get that skimmer cranking.
 
I've had nothing but bad luck with anemones, btu my mom has. i guesss it is just the tank. and remeber what i said about the clowns. the one at the lfs is deffinatly a female too.
 
The clowns should take to the toadstool just fine. I had a Perc by herself and she never took to anything I put in her tank. When I moved her to the large reef and added a juvie she and that juvie worked it out in about 5 days and paired in my toadstool. Now they just hang out in the toadstool and protect it like fort knox.
 
Mine is still very small, about half the size of the one at the lfs. I've had it about a month. I'm gonna give it a try. If they are hostile, I can seperate them easily enough.
 
Maroon clowns are difficult to pair, so keep an eye on them.

Clowns will host in many corals.

My clarkii lived in a Devil's fingers coral until I got a carpet anemone. My tomato lived in a toadstool until I sold it and now she lives in my bubble coral.

They are all individuals though. Some just never move into anything.
 
I too would go for the very juvenile clown if you want to pair them. I would be VERY sure to introduce the small clown to the space first [for a week or so] and provide something it can shelter in if the big one gets mean.

As for the anemone - while the tank is `old' ... I'd have it running 6+ months before going with an anemone. Anemone can outlive us ... and IMO this is good to keep in mind - if you take good care of it, get a healthy one ... you can pass it on [or clones] to your children. IMO, on that time scale - I'd wait until you're positive the tank would make it thrive ... and to find a nice healthy one.

If you're keeping this tank for years ... IMO take it slower than you'd like, as your ideas/choices will change as you're in the hobby - and most livestock will live for years ...
 
seems pretty crowded on the left side... doesn't seem like enough caves to me... seems like the left side is just a big pile of LR with no organization? pics are hard to tell though so don't take it the wrong way. awesome tank either way and of course once all corals are in it will look totally diff. i guess
 
I have no problem with taking criticism, so long as it's constructive.

There's probably a lot more caves and such than you can see. Also, You'll notice quite a few coral skeletons placed throughout the LR. Those are just placeholders of sorts, and I'll probably take them out once I start getting some live corals in there.

I do plan on re-aquascaping some pretty soon, as this was the first attempt, and there are a few areas I'm not that happy with.
 
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