true perc or false perc. or occerlaris

[110galreef]

aside from colorings is one better than another, host better in a anemone, than others....which are the "common" nemo?

Planning to get 2, hopefully pair up & like a RBTA for them....

Don't really want any other clown....
Gracias

 

[110galreef]

sounds like the false perc is an occellaris.....correct

 

[IFbettas]

Yes, false percs are ocellaris. There really aren't that many differences between the two species behaviorally, but ocellaris are cheaper and usually hardier too. True percs look better, IMO, because as they age they get more black on them.

As for being hosted by an anemone, if you are getting captive raised clowns it won't make much difference which of the two species you go with. If they were born in captivity, they've never seen an anemone before and it might take a while (if ever) for them to be hosted. Neither percula or ocellaris are naturally hosted by BTA's in the ocean either.

 

[Wolverine]

The color issue has been very distorted now, because there are so many "designer" clownfish out there from both species, that it doesn't make much difference. Classically, true percs will have more black, but I don't think it's as reliable now as it was years ago.
IME, ocellaris are a little less aggressive than true percs, but not a huge difference.

 

[110galreef]

Good info guys thanks,....i think im leaning towards the false perc due to possible less aggressive and i hink i prefer the colorings as well.

 

[snorvich]

Well, any clownfish pair that is sexually mature is going to be aggressive; the degree may vary.

 

[MikeandNicole]

I have the opposite experience. My picassos (true percs) are the most docile clowns I have ever had. We have away a pair of false percs because they would not allow anything else in a 20g tank. My black and white false percs right now will not let any fish near their anem (this includes a flame back angel and mystery wrasse).

 

[Beamers]

I would go with a pair of True percs if you wanted to host them in an anemone. I've never had any luck getting ocellaris to host anything other then random patches of xenia, and even then they seemed really confused why they were.

I've had a few tanks raised true percs that immediately hit my anemone's when i put them in, it was pure instinct.

 

[110galreef]

I would go with a pair of True percs if you wanted to host them in an anemone. I've never had any luck getting ocellaris to host anything other then random patches of xenia, and even then they seemed really confused why they were.

I've had a few tanks raised true percs that immediately hit my anemone's when i put them in, it was pure instinct.

Interesting......

Anyone else have issues getting false percs (occelaris) to host in anything or if so what was it hosting in?

 

[gspgretchen]

Someone said put a koosh ball in you quarntine tank. If it is the only thing in it the thought was they would "host" it. Then when put it in main tank they may host a nem.
Wish I would have tried that. Mine host hair algae when it gets long.

 

[Toddrtrex]

Interesting......

Anyone else have issues getting false percs (occelaris) to host in anything or if so what was it hosting in?

I have had 3 pairs of occelaris over the years, (( one being tank breed B&Ws )) and never had an issue with them being hosted -- BTAs (( E. Quadricolor )) and LTA (( M. doreensis ))

Shouldn't have any issues getting O's to be hosted.

 

[IFbettas]

My pair of ocellaris is extremely docile even though they are spawning every 2 weeks. They have always been hosted by a BTA.

 

[roushmustang]

my first clownfish i bought when i was 9 died last year from ick.... it took it about 4 months to actually touch the anemone and then it slowly went iin then out and eventually stayed attached to it.... this was a false perc

to everyone commenting... im selling my maroon clown and im going to get 4 false percs, 3 true percs, 3 black and white clowns,....... is there a posibility if i get them at a very young age that they will become a mated pair when they mature and lay eggs

 

[palmer373]

IFBettas-so what anemone do percs and occys naturally host in?

on thing i foudn interesting at petco recently, the oocelaris' were labeled as false percs and the perculas were labeled as 'thick black line occelaris'. i laughed at those labels....

Toddrtrex- so since youve had clowns host in both the LTA and BTA which anemone was more peaceful in the enviroment and which one did the clowns take hosting to faster?

 

[Toddrtrex]

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to everyone commenting... im selling my maroon clown and im going to get 4 false percs, 3 true percs, 3 black and white clowns,....... is there a posibility if i get them at a very young age that they will become a mated pair when they mature and lay eggs

So you are basically planning 7 ocellaris, and 3 percs in the same tank? If so, when one of the pairs pairs off and starts to spawn, they will not take too kindly too all the other clowns -- the odds of the others being killed off are very high, and I would strongly suggest against this plan.

IFBettas-so what anemone do percs and occys naturally host in?

on thing i foudn interesting at petco recently, the oocelaris' were labeled as false percs and the perculas were labeled as 'thick black line occelaris'. i laughed at those labels....

Toddrtrex- so since youve had clowns host in both the LTA and BTA which anemone was more peaceful in the enviroment and which one did the clowns take hosting to faster?

Ocellaris are naturally hosted by Mags and Gigs -- 2 of the most difficult hosting anemones to keep.
To the best of my knowledge Percs are the same, with the addition of H. Crispa.

I would consider both BTAs and LTAs as the same for "peacefulness" -- BTAs are rock dwelling, whereas LTAs are sand-dwelling. BTAs can/will clone/split so you might have to deal with the clone wandering around a bit until it gets settled.

 

[Angel*Fish]

aside from colorings is one better than another, host better in a anemone, than others....which are the "common" nemo?

Planning to get 2, hopefully pair up & like a RBTA for them....

Don't really want any other clown....
Gracias

There are ways to try and encourage them to use a BTA as host. The method I used was to put them all in a small tank first before adding to the main tank.

You should definitely obtain tank bred fish.

Spreading info that tank bred anemone fishes don't accept anemones is pretty irresponsible in my opinion. One - it's completely untrue. And two: LOTS of wild clownfish die just to get a few to the LFS and you can avoid contributing to this by purchasing tank bred.

 

[110galreef]

What order did you find succesful and or unsuccesful:

anemone in tank then clowns....
clowns in tank then anemone
all together same time....
other......

I am planning clowns then anemone....gotta research the anems a bit more plus find "the one" I want, colorings and species!

 

[Toddrtrex]

What order did you find succesful and or unsuccesful:

anemone in tank then clowns....
clowns in tank then anemone
all together same time....
other......

I am planning clowns then anemone....gotta research the anems a bit more plus find "the one" I want, colorings and species!

Honestly, I have done all 3 -- and didn't notice any difference. In each case the clowns were hosted -- sometimes right away, sometimes a week, and sometimes a month.

 

[110galreef]

Great Thanks,

You have been a wealth of knowledge in the few threads i am asking away!

 

[Toddrtrex]

Great Thanks,

You have been a wealth of knowledge in the few threads i am asking away!

Thank you