Water Changes?? All you experts?

i get my water from one of the vending machines. Out here in Cali its a bout 1.75$ per 5 gal. I plan on getting a RO unit very soon. But i was also told i would need a water softiner.
 
All fine advice so far for different situations. The bottom line here is: your mileage may vary. Do a bit of research and find out what each of the pieces of equipment do for your water. Having your water tested isn't a bad idea, you can also contact your municipality and get a water report. Some places have good tap water, many don't.

For me, I use straight tap water, have never owned or come near an RODI unit, and I've had no problem keeping and growing just about any coral and fish around. This is over 7 years or so in the township I live in. If you are lucky, you could have fine water from the tap also.

Asking reefers that live near you is a good plan also. If your neighbor has a reef tank, I bet you he has experience with your tap water.

Learn what you can, use what you learn. Good luck.

S !
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11031289#post11031289 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by davidryder
I would test your tapwater first. You can pick up a TDS meter for $15 - I wouldn't be concerned with anything under 350ppm. Also test for nitrates and phospates. As long as nitrates are under 5ppm and phosphates are under 1 I don't believe it to be necessary to use RO/DI water.

If $200 is in your budget to get a quality RO/DI unit I would certainly suggest buying one - it definitely removes one of the variables when troubleshooting water/algae problems.

Where can you buy a TDS meter for $15??
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11034528#post11034528 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Python73
All fine advice so far for different situations. The bottom line here is: your mileage may vary. Do a bit of research and find out what each of the pieces of equipment do for your water. Having your water tested isn't a bad idea, you can also contact your municipality and get a water report. Some places have good tap water, many don't.

For me, I use straight tap water, have never owned or come near an RODI unit, and I've had no problem keeping and growing just about any coral and fish around. This is over 7 years or so in the township I live in. If you are lucky, you could have fine water from the tap also.

Asking reefers that live near you is a good plan also. If your neighbor has a reef tank, I bet you he has experience with your tap water.

Learn what you can, use what you learn. Good luck.

S !

I couldn't agree more. I live in SF and have been using tap for the past few months without any ill effects so far. Prior to using tap I was using a 100gpd ro/di and still use it for top off water.

My tap is anywhere from 35-45ppm and typically around 35ppm. One city over and it's 150ppm.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11033858#post11033858 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r0bin
After using distilled water for years I switched to tap water about 5-6 months ago. I was always afraid to try it b/c of the horror stories. I bought a PUR filter and put in on my faucet so the water would be run through carbon first to get rid of chlorine and other things. I have not had one problem since switching. My tank was algae free before and it still is. Switching to tap water was the best thing I ever did. It has allowed me to do a lot more frequent water changes and that keeps my nitrates down. My fish are all healthy and my corals. The only thing I do is for top off I use distilled water so I am not constanly adding phosphates. I also ocassiionally run a phosphate remover and I always run carbon. This is just my story, not saying it will work for everyone.

edit - Another reason I decided to swith to tap water was after reading an article in Aquarium Fish Magazine that all the large aquariums use City water that has been treated by being run through carbon. they do not use RO/DI because it is not cost effective for them. I thought well if they can I will try it, their stuff looks great, lol!

And for all you that will say why not just buy and RO/DI.............. The biggest reason was, I was not comfortable wasting all of that water.


Just an FYI for anyone reading that is not comfortable with the water and RO/DI waste... And does not have the option of tap like me.

Use it to fill your washer and wash your clothes, water your lawn etc..

There are ways to not "waste" that water by using in place of water you would normally use. :)
 
If you are using low-TDS tap water, be sure to keep an eye on it -- just because it is good today doesn't mean it'll be the same tomorrow.
 
Am I the only one who noticed "monthly water changes"?

I certainly wouldn't wait a whole month...
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11035628#post11035628 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by catfisher
Am I the only one who noticed "monthly water changes"?

I certainly wouldn't wait a whole month...
I used to change 20-25 gallons every 3-4 weeks, now I change 10 gallons almost every week. Less stress on the tank and I believe a better result.
 
I had used tap water since 1998 until I setup my 150g using RO. What I have noticed so far.

of course using RO is better than tap but extra cost: no algea break out.

Tap water: it's not the end of the world like someone said it'd a recipe for disasters. I setup my 100g tank with tap water and I had to fight algea for a few months and won the war with the help of 100 snails and 200 blue and red legs hermits.
After that everything was in control, no algea break out even I topped off and water changed with tap.

Choosing between Tap and RO? I'd go for RO. It costs a little more but you have the peace in mind that you don't have unknown stuff in your water. And when something goes wrong in your tank, you don't blame yourself for using tap
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11036685#post11036685 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dattong
I had used tap water since 1998 until I setup my 150g using RO. What I have noticed so far.

of course using RO is better than tap but extra cost: no algea break out.

Tap water: it's not the end of the world like someone said it'd a recipe for disasters. I setup my 100g tank with tap water and I had to fight algea for a few months and won the war with the help of 100 snails and 200 blue and red legs hermits.
After that everything was in control, no algea break out even I topped off and water changed with tap.

Choosing between Tap and RO? I'd go for RO. It costs a little more but you have the peace in mind that you don't have unknown stuff in your water. And when something goes wrong in your tank, you don't blame yourself for using tap

Just want to be clear...

You state tap water "is not the end of the world" or a "recipe for disaster", but remember, it is a big world and for many people it IS a disaster.

What applies to you may not apply to someone in Arizona with close to 1000 ppm TDS.

RO/DI or not, everyone should test their water regularly for TDS and verify any additives with their municipality. You can also get a report to check on other various levels and see if anything is out of the norm. And remember it can change. For instance, my city does not normally use chloramine, just chlorine, but after calling I found out they mix water from another district 1/4 of the year that uses chloramine...
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11036685#post11036685 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dattong

of course using RO is better than tap but extra cost: no algea break out.


Using RO water doesn't even come close to guaranteeing no algae outbreak. There are far more sources of nitrates, phosphates, silicates, etc than tap water. Although source water is important it's not typically a major contributing factor to algae problems.

A poll I posted a while back relevant to this thread:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1103562

Take a look and vote :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11037955#post11037955 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by davidryder
Using RO water doesn't even come close to guaranteeing no algae outbreak.


Did you even read the previous setence? "What I have noticed"

it stated my own experience. I don't believe in saying something in general. A lot of people on here say thing that they only read from others but their own experience.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11036878#post11036878 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HBtank
Just want to be clear...

You state tap water "is not the end of the world" or a "recipe for disaster", but remember, it is a big world and for many people it IS a disaster.

What applies to you may not apply to someone in Arizona with close to 1000 ppm TDS.

RO/DI or not, everyone should test their water regularly for TDS and verify any additives with their municipality. You can also get a report to check on other various levels and see if anything is out of the norm. And remember it can change. For instance, my city does not normally use chloramine, just chlorine, but after calling I found out they mix water from another district 1/4 of the year that uses chloramine...


Again, that is my own experience. In my case, "recipe for disaster" is a false statement. (logically, a person succeeds by using tap will be a good counter example to prove that statement wrong)
 
Personal experiences are kinda useless to anyone that is not using your exact water supply.

Someone in a different location may read that datong used "tap water" and was ok, and not realize the word "tap water" is anything but universal. Many people talk about it in a way that makes it seem that way... and it is misleading.

That was my only point, and to test and check your "tap water" before proceeding, something I did not see you mention.
 
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