wavebox and turnover

rduic

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ok i have a tunze wavebox on my 150gal sps. plus other powerheads.

i was wondering what my turnover rate was. anyone have any ideas how to calculate the water movement from the wavebox?

also will i get better coral growth if i run it 24/7?
 
The wavebox uses a 6201 motor with a different label owing to the smaller transformer.

It turns on and off roughly every second and there is 86,400 seconds in a day. Divida that by two = 43,200. Divide that by 60sec = 720min divided by 60min = 12hrs.

The pump pushes 5283gph X 12hrs = 2641gph
 
Actually, the Wavebox doesn't really factor into the "turnover" in a tank. Turnover would basically apply to complete circulation of the water (though the concept is grossly oversimplified to describe what is actually going on). A Wavebox displaces water in one direction and then quickly displaces it an equal amount in the opposite direction. Therefore, the net movement is zero.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11879737#post11879737 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by illsquaddotcom
That was a round about way to divide 24 hours by two. You wouldn't happen to work for the US government, would you?

And 5283 x 12 = 63396.

Definitely govt! :p

-R
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11877781#post11877781 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xenon
The wavebox uses a 6201 motor with a different label owing to the smaller transformer.

It turns on and off roughly every second and there is 86,400 seconds in a day. Divida that by two = 43,200. Divide that by 60sec = 720min divided by 60min = 12hrs.

The pump pushes 5283gph X 12hrs = 2641gph

I don't believe this is correct. It comes out to a function of wave height, frequency and tank size. I remember seeing a calculation on this previously and it is a LOT more than 2600 GPH. You have to figure that you are moving the entire mass of water in your tank back and forth so you would need to know how much water you are moving back and forth and how fast that is happening. The wave height is an idicator of how much water is being moved.

I don't have a wavebox so I did not save the link but if you ask Roger in the Tunze forum I am sure he would be willing to help you figure it out.
 
Re: wavebox and turnover

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11877562#post11877562 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rduic
ok i have a tunze wavebox on my 150gal sps. plus other powerheads.

i was wondering what my turnover rate was. anyone have any ideas how to calculate the water movement from the wavebox?

also will i get better coral growth if i run it 24/7?

I don't understand what you're trying to measure with the "water movement" idea, wavebox is a complete different device like stated that it's meant to move water back and forth or send a wave. This will not give you and numbers as far as circulation and the whole idea of eg. 2800 gph in this case would be meaningless. Wave box does provide a more natural water movement in addition to your current circulation devices which have flow one way pushing everything to flow in a single direction.

For circulation there are different types of circulatory devices for eg. a jet that rated fro 1000gph will perform completely different opposed to a 1000gph tunze powerhead where the flow is much broader.

As for you question on how and when you should run your wavebox would be going back to what happens on the Ocean during the day and night, and the answer to that question would be run the wavebox during the day where there is a lot more water/wave activity than in the night where the oean in general is much calmer.
 
Wave makers are for looks and do very little if anything for coral and water movement. In some cases may actually decrease flow.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11919075#post11919075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by demonsp
Wave makers are for looks and do very little if anything for coral and water movement. In some cases may actually decrease flow.

Please expand on this comment. This is not the kind of nugget you drop in and walk away from.
 
lol! that couldn't be farther from the truth...

With a wavebox you have no dead spots. So it also keep detritus suspended in the water column.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11919075#post11919075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by demonsp
Wave makers are for looks and do very little if anything for coral and water movement. In some cases may actually decrease flow.


i would have to disagree with that comment. i have seen the difference in a few tanks now when a wavebox is used. The people did nothing but add the box and there coral health and color were way different after only a couple of weeks.
 
Hello--I have my wavebox at the right side of my aquarium and the overflow is in the left side. How can that not be forcing the detritus down into the sump.----Jerry
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11919075#post11919075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by demonsp
Wave makers are for looks and do very little if anything for coral and water movement. In some cases may actually decrease flow.

Those statements are soooo wrong I don´t know where to begin. The wavebox is imo an awesome addition to most reeftanks, no deadspots even inside your rock, better feeding opportunities for polyps and filterfeeders, better nutrient/skimmer export, it does a lot for the water movement as it will continuously move the entire body of water.

If I turn off my box overnight there is a cloud of detritus rising from the rocks and sand in the morning. Only for looks eh ?;)
 
Cardinal and USC-fan how big are your tanks and what other flow do you have. just trying to tune and see if i need more than one pump on my 240. Roger at tunze USA said thats all i would need.
 
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