What products do you gut load your brine with?

Felipe, live phyto, which typically consists of Nannochloropsis and from what I've read that seems to suffice when it comes to clowns.

Reality is that Nanno. is high in DHA and low in EPA, so mixing Nanno with something like T-Iso (which has high EPA, low DHA) balances things out a bit. Tetraselmis seems balanced in both (from my memory) but is also LOW in both - the main reason folks use it is that it's motile (may elicit feeding response and perhaps be eaten directly by tiny larvae) and it also has some disease preventing properties. I culture all three and wouldn't hesitate to use a mix.

You also don't need to use "LIVE" phytoplankton to use phyto...there are tons of perpared mixes like Reed's Phytofeast Live, DT's, as well as a variety of algae pastes that could be used.

Roti-Rich - I haven't used it and I thought it was a FEED for rotifers but not so much an actual enrichment product.

I personally use "Selcon" when I'm actively enriching Rotifers for my larvae...haven't had anything get to the point where Brine Nauplii are truly appropriate! You'll see a lot of "Selco, Selcon, Super Selco" references as a good HUFA booster.

Cyclopeze is a frozen or dried feed of actual copepod-type organisms....not an enrichment for brine. It's an actual direct feed for older larvae (and my adult fish love it too). Great for enhancing red/orange/yellow colorations.

"Dried Plankton" could be ANYTHING and most likely would be something different that what Brine Shrimp could feed on.

FWIW,

Matt
 
As I remember, brine shrimp are a non-selective feeder on small foods. I think the size range given was 5-50 microns for newly hatched (can be confirmed in one of F. Marini's articles linked at the top of this forum).

If you can grind it to the right size, they will eat it, so you could use things like cyclopeeze. Other than forcing through a screen less than 50 microns in size, I don't know how you would know that your target feed is the right size.

Fred
 
Re: What products do you gut load your brine with?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8225580#post8225580 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MimicTang
What products do you gut load your brine with?

Why would I gut load brine?

I use lots of newly hatched brine. YOu can try to gut load it, but it won't work cause they don't eat, just hatched.

If I want gut loaded brine, I buy it frozen.:rolleyes: but generally,


I don't.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8229788#post8229788 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwp
Felipe, live phyto, which typically consists of Nannochloropsis and from what I've read that seems to suffice when it comes to clowns.

Reality is that Nanno. is high in DHA and low in EPA, so mixing Nanno with something like T-Iso (which has high EPA, low DHA) balances things out a bit. Tetraselmis seems balanced in both (from my memory) but is also LOW in both - the main reason folks use it is that it's motile (may elicit feeding response and perhaps be eaten directly by tiny larvae) and it also has some disease preventing properties. I culture all three and wouldn't hesitate to use a mix.


Matt

You've got the EPA and DHA thing backwards.
 
The only good thing to enrich, thats the term, is selco or anything similar.

Algae will be more labor intense or expensive if you buy.

If you are working with clowns is not necesary to do, they go by with NHBS, if you are working with other species is a must and you will feed 24 hour artemia not NH.

I use 24-30 hour old artemia for all species, enriched with great results.

Ed
 
Well, if you happen to be growing phyto anyway and end up with extra shrimp, why not gut load after 24 hours? Thats what I did the last time I attempted to raise seahorses.

Fred
 
I use Nannochloropsis and Tetraselmis added on alternate days, I have also been using the extra rotifers that I culture every 3-4 days. Seems to be working for me and has allowed me to raise by brine shrimp to adult size.

Andrew
 
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