$110.00 for flame angel!!!!

Look at all the different prices for the same fish around the country! Its crazy! Right here in my county prices vary like that from lfs to lfs. I visited my two favorite stores last saturday and both had a white cheek tang similar in size, about 3.5" and one store selling for 125$ and the other for $70! The same store that had the more expensive white cheek was selling GBTA for $40.00 and the cheaper lfs on the tang had GBTA for $80.00. That sorta thing blows my mind!
 
Look at all the different prices for the same fish around the country! Its crazy! Right here in my county prices vary like that from lfs to lfs. I visited my two favorite stores last saturday and both had a white cheek tang similar in size, about 3.5" and one store selling for 125$ and the other for $70! The same store that had the more expensive white cheek was selling GBTA for $40.00 and the cheaper lfs on the tang had GBTA for $80.00. That sorta thing blows my mind!

location, location, location....
 
They don't originate in the US - correct, however it is cheap freight to bring them into the Us as they are close by to Hawaii, or lately into LAX. We still have to pay import fees - which adds 2-4$ per fish. Then you tack on EXPORT fees to Canada which adds another 3-5$ per fish plus freight (international freight is MUCH more than domestic freight by 3-4x).
then tack on Canada's import fees on top of US export fees, freight etc. In total a flame angel that lands in a LFS for 22$ in the US lands in Canada for 35$.. hence the different price tags.

Everything changes when the US ships domestically vs internationally.
 
Just got one yesterday for my grandson's tank...$20 at LFS ... They had 3 available, with new shipments due Tuesday
 
Look at all the different prices for the same fish around the country! Its crazy! Right here in my county prices vary like that from lfs to lfs. I visited my two favorite stores last saturday and both had a white cheek tang similar in size, about 3.5" and one store selling for 125$ and the other for $70! The same store that had the more expensive white cheek was selling GBTA for $40.00 and the cheaper lfs on the tang had GBTA for $80.00. That sorta thing blows my mind!

It is crazy, but LFS will price them at a price they know they can sell them at. If they continually sell GBTA for $80 then why wouldn't they price them like that. Online is the exact same. I see Male Crosshatch Triggers on Diver Den for $800-$1000 and people always buy them. I can get one the exact same size from LFS for around $400 but people will buy them at that price so Live Aquaria will charge that much. Theres a LFS around here that I shop at about 2x a year that sells small yellow tangs < 1.5" for $72 it's insane but people are dumb enough to buy them at that price so he continues to price them that high. He's been doing it for years and years but unfortunately there is stupid people that don't shop around to know better.
 
It is crazy, but LFS will price them at a price they know they can sell them at. If they continually sell GBTA for $80 then why wouldn't they price them like that. Online is the exact same. I see Male Crosshatch Triggers on Diver Den for $800-$1000 and people always buy them. I can get one the exact same size from LFS for around $400 but people will buy them at that price so Live Aquaria will charge that much. Theres a LFS around here that I shop at about 2x a year that sells small yellow tangs < 1.5" for $72 it's insane but people are dumb enough to buy them at that price so he continues to price them that high. He's been doing it for years and years but unfortunately there is stupid people that don't shop around to know better.

when you buy a fish thru dd you are paying for the high quality of the individual and the qt process they are run thru and for a male ch that is huge..they don't always ship well and sometimes have the bad habit of dying for no apparent reason even a few months after they have been added to a tank...dd sets their price based on that care and the fact that they get the nicest quality specimens...
 
when you buy a fish thru dd you are paying for the high quality of the individual and the qt process they are run thru and for a male ch that is huge..they don't always ship well and sometimes have the bad habit of dying for no apparent reason even a few months after they have been added to a tank...dd sets their price based on that care and the fact that they get the nicest quality specimens...

Sure you can tell yourself that all you want and for the most part it may be true. Don't get me wrong I love DD as much as the next person and order from them regularly. Everyday at 5pm I'm on my computer on LA looking at the fish and corals they've added, and I've always been very pleased with the fish and corals I've received but at the end of the day I've always gotten the same quality animals for the same price or cheaper than anything I've ever ordered from DD. Charging double the price just because its QTed and eating isn't worth the double price for me. Especially being that I'm going to QT it myself anyways when I get it so it didn't really matter. If a fish isn't eating at the LFS I don't by it, plain and simple. DD knows what they can get out of certain fish which is typically why you always see them at that price. I don't blame them, hell if I could turn around sell my crosshatch for 800-1k I would. I'd then turn around spend $400 on An equally healthy crosshatch at my LFS again and pocket the other $400 I made.
 
I'm always amazed that hobbyists complain about the price of a live wild animal caught and flown halfway around the world to our doorsteps. $100 seems like a pretty reasonable price for such a thing. No wonder the aquarium industry treats animals like commodities and has such a high mortality rate.
 
Sure you can tell yourself that all you want and for the most part it may be true. Don't get me wrong I love DD as much as the next person and order from them regularly. Everyday at 5pm I'm on my computer on LA looking at the fish and corals they've added, and I've always been very pleased with the fish and corals I've received but at the end of the day I've always gotten the same quality animals for the same price or cheaper than anything I've ever ordered from DD. Charging double the price just because its QTed and eating isn't worth the double price for me. Especially being that I'm going to QT it myself anyways when I get it so it didn't really matter. If a fish isn't eating at the LFS I don't by it, plain and simple. DD knows what they can get out of certain fish which is typically why you always see them at that price. I don't blame them, hell if I could turn around sell my crosshatch for 800-1k I would. I'd then turn around spend $400 on An equally healthy crosshatch at my LFS again and pocket the other $400 I made.

"Sure you can tell yourself that all you want and for the most part it may be true." wow, so you are saying dd doesn't really do what they say??? so they have been lying to us or falsely advertising what they do??? Not only do they get the nicest livestock around but they typically get first pick from most wholesalers and they do an outstanding job with their qt protocol..many of us know Kevin and his crew and it is not uncommon to get calls from them saying they are keeping the fish longer in qt than expected for observation or just to make sure all is good...those of us that do know better do qt all our dd goods and dd is the first to say any livestock they sell should really go thru additional qt once the customer receives...knowing that a fish like a ch was caught with care by a top collector, decompressed properly, went thru a rigorous qt regimen, and is eating and healthy is wonderfully reassuring...having lived in Hawaii and seeing how some divers/collectors catch their fish in an ugly manner and seeing the horrible conditions of some of their holding facilities was eye opening to me...
 
:deadhorse1::deadhorse1:True Hawaiian Flames are always going to be more costly than non-Hawaiian Flames...ugh...:deadhorse1::deadhorse1:
 
My LFS had two last month, about 2" or so for $45. I use LA as a reference for price, they seem to be pretty fair so if I can get the same fish locally for the same price, or close, I'd rather do that. My store is about a mile down the road so transport doesn't take but five minutes and I have the chance to watch them at the store before purchase. If something I was wanting comes in I usually watch it for a week, if it's still there it was meant to be LOL. Got a bit off topic, but my store has pretty fair prices IMO
 
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