Hey RC!! Welcome to by first reef build!
I've been working on research and planning for this for several months now and I'm finally at a stage when I'm ready to start buying stuff! In fact, I made my first purchase last weekend at the Denver ReefStock show! (more later) I'm new to reefkeeping so I'd really appreciate all the feedback I can get... both positive and negative. I'll put some specific questions below in bold that I'd really love to get input on.
So here's the plan...
I'm building a 120g (48"x24"x24") mixed reef. I plan on starting out with mostly LPS and Softies for the first 6 months or so and then ease into clams, anems, and a bit of SPS. I'm on a pretty fixed, but reasonable budget (around $5k) which based on my plan, is tapped out right now. So, let's start with the component lists first...
Parts List
Tank: 120g Perfecto (48X24X24) with matching stand... going open top. Will be setting up a BeanAnimal external overflow. I'll be drilling and building the overflows myself. As for internal flow, I'll go with two Koralia Magnum 7s. I'll plan on upgrading to MP40s in the year to come.
Sump: 40g breeder that I'll split into skimmer, return, and Refugium (with Miracle Mud) sections. I'll be using a Reeflow BlowHole 1450 for the return pump. 1 1/2" drain plumbing and 1" return plumbing. I'll tee off the return to a manifold to power a pair of BRS single reactors for carbon and GFO. For the skimmer, I'll be using the Reef Octopus Diablo xs 225 - small footprint but still good performance. I'll also keep a couple of 250w Jager heaters in the sump as well.
Controller: Neptune APEX full system with breakout box. I'm a computer nerd at heart so this is a mandatory item for me. :idea:
Lights: a RapidLED 90g dimmable kit controlled by APEX. This kit has the following LED and color combinations: 18 Cool White Cree XP-G, 20 Royal Blue Cree XT-E, 6 Violet UV, 2 Red Cree XP-E, 2 Green Cree XP-E.
ATO: DIY with parts from AutoTopOff.com "“ 3 float switches monitored by APEX breakout box. Aqualifter pump will dose Kalk from the ATO reservoir. Eventually I'll replace (or suppliment) the Kalk with the BRS 2-part system but I want to wait until I can spring for dosing pumps.
Water: BRS 75gpd Chloramines Plus kit. Will be setting up a water station in the garage using two 55g food-grade barrels (the blue ones) plumbed up to a Panworld Blueline 30HD pump. I haven't finalized the plumbing design yet but I want to plumb a 50' RV water hose to use for water changes. Will start with Instant Ocean mix and then later move to Reef Crystals once I get more coral. Will also be getting a BRS Refractometer.
Dry Rock and Sand: 100lbs of dry rock and 120lbs of sand from ReefRocks.net. Heard nothing but good things about these guys and the sand is free with my rock purchase"¦ just need to pay $45 shipping for the sand. Rock is just $2/lb shipped and it's gotten very good reviews. Initially I was thinking I would not need to cure the rock since I was goign to cycle the tank from scratch. As I later found out though, I'll still need to cure it to get rid of the PO4. Need more research here still but sounds like I should get started with that right away.
Live Rock: I'm struggling here a bit. I really want to get the Primo Deco rock from LiveRockNReef.com (http://www.liverocknreef.com/liverock/index.php?l=product_detail&p=7926). It looks amazing and I'm really wanting all the life, both good and a little bad if necessary, to kick the tank off right. It's pricy though"¦ my alternative is 50lbs of mixed live rock from Saltwaterfish.com. It's certainly cheaper but doesn't look anywhere close to the deco rock.
Test Kits: API Saltwater master kit for the cycle (NH3, NO2, NO3), Red Sea reef foundations kit (Ca, Alk, Mg), and Red Sea Algae control kit (NO3, PO4).
The Design
So guys, here are some drawings of the design I have planned. Note that any blue pipe will be SpaFlex so I may be able to remove some fittings"¦ the flexible pvc is just a PITA to draw in Sketchup. I'll explain some of the features as I go.
So the pic below is the view of the back of the tank. You can see the external overflow box there with the three BeanAnimal standpipes. The external overflow box measures 8"x5"x20". The middle pipe is the emergency drain. It's 1.5" below the edge of the external overflow box. The left pipe is the open channel which is placed 6" above the bottom of the box (at the weir). The far right pipe is the full siphon pipe which is 3.5" above the bottom of the box. All the drain plumbing is 1 ½" schd 40 PVC.
So here's my first specific question"¦ I replaced the sanitary Ts in the original BeanAnimal design with two 90s to save space. Bean had mentioned that he only used the Ts so he could clean the pipes. Also, in his internal overflow box, he didn't glue the street 90s he used. Now, since this design has all the fittings inside an external overflow box, I don't think I have to actually glue them into the bulkheads do I? If not, then I'll have access to clean everything without the Ts.
As for the return plumbing, from the top of the tank returns down to the 2nd wye (just above the pump) is all 1" pvc. I debated on going with ¾ but since I'm using 1.5" from the pump to the internal manifold, I thought going to ¾ might be too small to fast. Not sure. The ball valve just below the left side return will be used to balance the flow between the two sides. I plan on reducing down to ¾" lockline fittings (with siphon hole) inside the tank. Also note that the blue pipe that connects the right hand return to the rest of the plumbing will be flexible PVC that I should be able to snake behind my drains without any extraneous fittings.
Here are a couple pics of the overflow plan. The external overflow will be ¼" glass at 8"x5"x20". I'll drill two 2.32" holes in the tank (same size hole as 1.5" bulkhead requires).
Then on the inside I'm doing something a bit different"¦ In a lot of the pics I've seen of external overflow tanks, I'm always able to see the outline of the silicone and glass joint of the external overflow. Now I know that it will eventually get overgrown with coralline and maybe I have a bit of OCD going on but it annoys me. So I'm planning on covering the entire inside back panel of the tank with 1/8 black acrylic. I'll cut a window out of that to allow water to flow through the two holes in then tank. And then I'll weld an internal weir onto the top of the 1/8" back plate. The internal weir measures 47 3/8"x1.5"x4.25". This should give me a clean look from the front of the tank and since I'm mounting the internal weir to the acrylic back plate it should be plenty strong. I'd just be siliconeing (sp?) the entire 47"X24" back plate to the back of the tank interior. Aside from overkill complaints"¦ any concerns about this approach?
The next pic is the front view. Here you can see the manifold that I set up teeing off the 1.5" return. The manifold reduces down to 1" ball valves. The right hand one will be used to adjust my refugium flow. The next two will reduce down to ½" JG fittings to power Carbon and GFO reactors. The final one is there for future needs (auto-water change? Maybe).
Note that the pump intake is plumbed into a 1.5" bulkhead in the return section of the pump. Here's another place I could use some verification. My return section is 10.5"x15.5"x9". Is that big enough to be safe? Both in terms of the risk of running the pump dry but also in terms of having enough water for the BeanAnimal siphon to kick in?
I also want to be sure that I've got enough free space in the sump to handle a power outage. So here are the dimensions of the sump sections: Skimmer: 10"x15.5"x9"; Return: 10.5"x15.5"x9"; Fuge: 12"x15.5"x12". As for the open space"¦ as I figure it I've got 3"x15.5"x12" of air above the fuge, 6x15.5x10.5 above the return, 6x15.5x2.75 above the bubble trap, and 6x15.5x10.5 above the skimmer section. So that gives me 2766 cubic inches of space"¦ almost 12 gallons of flood waters before a drop hits the floor. :rollface: Did I calculate that correctly?
Also, my brother, his wife and I got the chance to go to my first Reef convention last weekend"¦ the Denver ReefStock 2013! It was really cool but it sucked to see all those AMAZING frags and not be able to buy any!! I can't wait till next year! It was a lot of fun, met some local reefers and was able to open the wallet a bit for a Reeflo BlowHole 1450.
I didn't realize it but Reeflo is located in Co. Springs just an hour and a half from me. They had a booth and Reefstock and were showing this pump. I was originally planning on using a Mag 12 for the return and then two MJ1200s to power my reactors. But Reeflo offered me this pump for $120. It's $199 online right now. For that price I took a chance. This pump has three speeds you can run at with amazing head pressure tolerance. It's rated for up to 30' of head pressure! So based on my plumbing layout, how much head do you think it will need to fight? The pump is 4'5" below the return. Here are the specs of the pump and a pic of how TINY it is"¦ I guessed I'd be at around 10' of head after powering the reactors? That should get me 1100gph through the sump.
Finally, after all day at Reefstock doing everything I could to keep from buying a zoo frag to put in a fishbowl on my desk"¦ we stopped at petsmart on the way home so I could price check a QT system. Next thing I know, my sister in law walks out of the store with her very own Beta! The BRAT! I've spent months planning and drawing and then all day drooling over stuff at Reefstock and SHE'S the first one to actually get a fish! SHEESH!
LOL"¦ well thanks guys"¦ I'll keep this thread updated as I progress. Will be ordering the tank and stand this week! I'm on my way. Please offer whatever input you can. I could sure use the help!
I've been working on research and planning for this for several months now and I'm finally at a stage when I'm ready to start buying stuff! In fact, I made my first purchase last weekend at the Denver ReefStock show! (more later) I'm new to reefkeeping so I'd really appreciate all the feedback I can get... both positive and negative. I'll put some specific questions below in bold that I'd really love to get input on.
So here's the plan...
I'm building a 120g (48"x24"x24") mixed reef. I plan on starting out with mostly LPS and Softies for the first 6 months or so and then ease into clams, anems, and a bit of SPS. I'm on a pretty fixed, but reasonable budget (around $5k) which based on my plan, is tapped out right now. So, let's start with the component lists first...
Parts List
Tank: 120g Perfecto (48X24X24) with matching stand... going open top. Will be setting up a BeanAnimal external overflow. I'll be drilling and building the overflows myself. As for internal flow, I'll go with two Koralia Magnum 7s. I'll plan on upgrading to MP40s in the year to come.
Sump: 40g breeder that I'll split into skimmer, return, and Refugium (with Miracle Mud) sections. I'll be using a Reeflow BlowHole 1450 for the return pump. 1 1/2" drain plumbing and 1" return plumbing. I'll tee off the return to a manifold to power a pair of BRS single reactors for carbon and GFO. For the skimmer, I'll be using the Reef Octopus Diablo xs 225 - small footprint but still good performance. I'll also keep a couple of 250w Jager heaters in the sump as well.
Controller: Neptune APEX full system with breakout box. I'm a computer nerd at heart so this is a mandatory item for me. :idea:
Lights: a RapidLED 90g dimmable kit controlled by APEX. This kit has the following LED and color combinations: 18 Cool White Cree XP-G, 20 Royal Blue Cree XT-E, 6 Violet UV, 2 Red Cree XP-E, 2 Green Cree XP-E.
ATO: DIY with parts from AutoTopOff.com "“ 3 float switches monitored by APEX breakout box. Aqualifter pump will dose Kalk from the ATO reservoir. Eventually I'll replace (or suppliment) the Kalk with the BRS 2-part system but I want to wait until I can spring for dosing pumps.
Water: BRS 75gpd Chloramines Plus kit. Will be setting up a water station in the garage using two 55g food-grade barrels (the blue ones) plumbed up to a Panworld Blueline 30HD pump. I haven't finalized the plumbing design yet but I want to plumb a 50' RV water hose to use for water changes. Will start with Instant Ocean mix and then later move to Reef Crystals once I get more coral. Will also be getting a BRS Refractometer.
Dry Rock and Sand: 100lbs of dry rock and 120lbs of sand from ReefRocks.net. Heard nothing but good things about these guys and the sand is free with my rock purchase"¦ just need to pay $45 shipping for the sand. Rock is just $2/lb shipped and it's gotten very good reviews. Initially I was thinking I would not need to cure the rock since I was goign to cycle the tank from scratch. As I later found out though, I'll still need to cure it to get rid of the PO4. Need more research here still but sounds like I should get started with that right away.
Live Rock: I'm struggling here a bit. I really want to get the Primo Deco rock from LiveRockNReef.com (http://www.liverocknreef.com/liverock/index.php?l=product_detail&p=7926). It looks amazing and I'm really wanting all the life, both good and a little bad if necessary, to kick the tank off right. It's pricy though"¦ my alternative is 50lbs of mixed live rock from Saltwaterfish.com. It's certainly cheaper but doesn't look anywhere close to the deco rock.
Test Kits: API Saltwater master kit for the cycle (NH3, NO2, NO3), Red Sea reef foundations kit (Ca, Alk, Mg), and Red Sea Algae control kit (NO3, PO4).
The Design
So guys, here are some drawings of the design I have planned. Note that any blue pipe will be SpaFlex so I may be able to remove some fittings"¦ the flexible pvc is just a PITA to draw in Sketchup. I'll explain some of the features as I go.
So the pic below is the view of the back of the tank. You can see the external overflow box there with the three BeanAnimal standpipes. The external overflow box measures 8"x5"x20". The middle pipe is the emergency drain. It's 1.5" below the edge of the external overflow box. The left pipe is the open channel which is placed 6" above the bottom of the box (at the weir). The far right pipe is the full siphon pipe which is 3.5" above the bottom of the box. All the drain plumbing is 1 ½" schd 40 PVC.
So here's my first specific question"¦ I replaced the sanitary Ts in the original BeanAnimal design with two 90s to save space. Bean had mentioned that he only used the Ts so he could clean the pipes. Also, in his internal overflow box, he didn't glue the street 90s he used. Now, since this design has all the fittings inside an external overflow box, I don't think I have to actually glue them into the bulkheads do I? If not, then I'll have access to clean everything without the Ts.
As for the return plumbing, from the top of the tank returns down to the 2nd wye (just above the pump) is all 1" pvc. I debated on going with ¾ but since I'm using 1.5" from the pump to the internal manifold, I thought going to ¾ might be too small to fast. Not sure. The ball valve just below the left side return will be used to balance the flow between the two sides. I plan on reducing down to ¾" lockline fittings (with siphon hole) inside the tank. Also note that the blue pipe that connects the right hand return to the rest of the plumbing will be flexible PVC that I should be able to snake behind my drains without any extraneous fittings.
Here are a couple pics of the overflow plan. The external overflow will be ¼" glass at 8"x5"x20". I'll drill two 2.32" holes in the tank (same size hole as 1.5" bulkhead requires).
Then on the inside I'm doing something a bit different"¦ In a lot of the pics I've seen of external overflow tanks, I'm always able to see the outline of the silicone and glass joint of the external overflow. Now I know that it will eventually get overgrown with coralline and maybe I have a bit of OCD going on but it annoys me. So I'm planning on covering the entire inside back panel of the tank with 1/8 black acrylic. I'll cut a window out of that to allow water to flow through the two holes in then tank. And then I'll weld an internal weir onto the top of the 1/8" back plate. The internal weir measures 47 3/8"x1.5"x4.25". This should give me a clean look from the front of the tank and since I'm mounting the internal weir to the acrylic back plate it should be plenty strong. I'd just be siliconeing (sp?) the entire 47"X24" back plate to the back of the tank interior. Aside from overkill complaints"¦ any concerns about this approach?
The next pic is the front view. Here you can see the manifold that I set up teeing off the 1.5" return. The manifold reduces down to 1" ball valves. The right hand one will be used to adjust my refugium flow. The next two will reduce down to ½" JG fittings to power Carbon and GFO reactors. The final one is there for future needs (auto-water change? Maybe).
Note that the pump intake is plumbed into a 1.5" bulkhead in the return section of the pump. Here's another place I could use some verification. My return section is 10.5"x15.5"x9". Is that big enough to be safe? Both in terms of the risk of running the pump dry but also in terms of having enough water for the BeanAnimal siphon to kick in?
I also want to be sure that I've got enough free space in the sump to handle a power outage. So here are the dimensions of the sump sections: Skimmer: 10"x15.5"x9"; Return: 10.5"x15.5"x9"; Fuge: 12"x15.5"x12". As for the open space"¦ as I figure it I've got 3"x15.5"x12" of air above the fuge, 6x15.5x10.5 above the return, 6x15.5x2.75 above the bubble trap, and 6x15.5x10.5 above the skimmer section. So that gives me 2766 cubic inches of space"¦ almost 12 gallons of flood waters before a drop hits the floor. :rollface: Did I calculate that correctly?
Also, my brother, his wife and I got the chance to go to my first Reef convention last weekend"¦ the Denver ReefStock 2013! It was really cool but it sucked to see all those AMAZING frags and not be able to buy any!! I can't wait till next year! It was a lot of fun, met some local reefers and was able to open the wallet a bit for a Reeflo BlowHole 1450.
I didn't realize it but Reeflo is located in Co. Springs just an hour and a half from me. They had a booth and Reefstock and were showing this pump. I was originally planning on using a Mag 12 for the return and then two MJ1200s to power my reactors. But Reeflo offered me this pump for $120. It's $199 online right now. For that price I took a chance. This pump has three speeds you can run at with amazing head pressure tolerance. It's rated for up to 30' of head pressure! So based on my plumbing layout, how much head do you think it will need to fight? The pump is 4'5" below the return. Here are the specs of the pump and a pic of how TINY it is"¦ I guessed I'd be at around 10' of head after powering the reactors? That should get me 1100gph through the sump.
Finally, after all day at Reefstock doing everything I could to keep from buying a zoo frag to put in a fishbowl on my desk"¦ we stopped at petsmart on the way home so I could price check a QT system. Next thing I know, my sister in law walks out of the store with her very own Beta! The BRAT! I've spent months planning and drawing and then all day drooling over stuff at Reefstock and SHE'S the first one to actually get a fish! SHEESH!
LOL"¦ well thanks guys"¦ I'll keep this thread updated as I progress. Will be ordering the tank and stand this week! I'm on my way. Please offer whatever input you can. I could sure use the help!