For those who need to fill a big tank with a one of a kind fish
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18" Queen Trigger
- Thread starter jmccown
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reefer334
In Memoriam
You should not have got that fish if you planned on putting it in that small of a tank.
Nothing irritates me more then when someone gets a fish then gets rid of it because they cannot care for it properly.Now there is a good chance someone else gets it and it dies from stress.
That poor fish should have been left in the ocean.
If you had a kid would you get rid of it because your house was not big enough,no I think not.
People need to stop buying fish if they do not plan on keeping them for the life of the fish period!!!!
Very frustrating!!!
If you lived closer I would take the fish off of your hands and care for it the rest of its life.
Chris
Nothing irritates me more then when someone gets a fish then gets rid of it because they cannot care for it properly.Now there is a good chance someone else gets it and it dies from stress.
That poor fish should have been left in the ocean.
If you had a kid would you get rid of it because your house was not big enough,no I think not.
People need to stop buying fish if they do not plan on keeping them for the life of the fish period!!!!
Very frustrating!!!
If you lived closer I would take the fish off of your hands and care for it the rest of its life.
Chris
I don't need a lecture Chris. There's nothing you can tell me that I don't know already about fishkeeping practices and husbandry. I planned on getting this fish a much bigger tank, but as it turned out it's going to be a while before I can get a new house and in turn, a bigger tank. When I got this fish it came to a much bigger tank and has been treated very well. Please don't start the bashing because I can certainly chastize your stock as well. Don't derail my thread. I didn't derail any of yours.
OnoIgotICH
In Memoriam
wow.
shut up.
I think he thought I bought it from a distributor at this size, but that's not the case. I rescued the fish from a 55g several months back from the original owner who raised it from just a couple of inches over several years. Anyhow, this is my favorite fish of all time and I still hope to be able to keep it. If things work out in the near future and we are able to get a bigger house then this fish is a lifetime family member. I think it should have bare minimum of a 240g tank. I figured I'd throw this out now to begin a search for a responsible owner with a large tank willing to commit.
Ranzan
New member
awwww man jm you gota get rid of her 
if i wasnt planning on going Navy SEAL in a year i go out a set up a tank just for her 
... Chris before this jm has said he was planning on a much bigger tank for her but things change chill out a little im sure you have kill your fare share of fish.
if i wasnt planning on going Navy SEAL in a year i go out a set up a tank just for her ... Chris before this jm has said he was planning on a much bigger tank for her but things change chill out a little im sure you have kill your fare share of fish.
Wolverine
Premium Member
Honestly, I would consider getting rid of the clown trigger now too. As you're seeing, getting rid of a large trigger is difficult, because most people don't have the tank size to accomodate them. In not too long, you're going to have another one that's too big for this tank.
You can call around for a public aquarium, but many of them will refuse or don't have room for another addition that outgrew someone's tank.
Now, going purely on the educational side of things, I'm going to bookmark this thread. I'm not saying this to lecture you, because I think you've already learned this problem. However, I find myself constantly telling people not to get a fish that will outgrow their tank just because they're planning on getting a bigger tank down the road. All too often, those plans get derailed, and this is the result. Unfortunately for you, this is a perfect illustration of that.
Good luck finding a home for it.
Dave
You can call around for a public aquarium, but many of them will refuse or don't have room for another addition that outgrew someone's tank.
Now, going purely on the educational side of things, I'm going to bookmark this thread. I'm not saying this to lecture you, because I think you've already learned this problem. However, I find myself constantly telling people not to get a fish that will outgrow their tank just because they're planning on getting a bigger tank down the road. All too often, those plans get derailed, and this is the result. Unfortunately for you, this is a perfect illustration of that.
Good luck finding a home for it.
Dave
I'll let jmccown speak for himself here, but this sounds different from the more typical scenario Dave describes. Instead, this sounds like an instance in which he rescued a fish from even worse circumstances, and if he had not done so, the fish would have been even worse off.
reefer334
In Memoriam
I am not bashing you Jim, I just thought with your tanks of all people that would take care of this fish it would be you.I admire your 360 set up it is very nice.
I just see a lot of people doing this and now with these aquarium bills they are trying to pass in hawaii people are adding to there point by buying fish and not housing it for its life.I personaly love triggers and hate to see this happen to them.
Have you tried keeping other fish with it ?My queen is in a community situation and it gets along good with other fish even fish a couple inches long.Maybe you could try it in your 360.
Good luck ,
Chris
I just see a lot of people doing this and now with these aquarium bills they are trying to pass in hawaii people are adding to there point by buying fish and not housing it for its life.I personaly love triggers and hate to see this happen to them.
Have you tried keeping other fish with it ?My queen is in a community situation and it gets along good with other fish even fish a couple inches long.Maybe you could try it in your 360.
Good luck ,
Chris
I get tired of people always acting all high and mighty about keeping this fish in that tank,and this fish with that fish. You did a cool thing by taking it on and then admitting when it needs a new home. People are making it seem like your abandoning this fish but in reality your doing a good thing. Most people get rid of fish brcause they get bored with them or they let them goto waste. You obviously took good care of it. JMO.
When I picked her up I drove 8 hours to give this fish a good home. How many people would do that? This fish was already as big as it is now and I knew what to expect. If I hadn't it re-homed her she would have likely been dead by now. The previous owner was feeding her raw hamburger meat and the water was yellow as could be. She is much happier with me that what she was previously. My intentions were not to pawn her off on the first person who wanted her. Matter of fact, all of you pitching BS at me for silly reasons has made me decide to keep her till I get a bigger tank. If she made it as long as she did in a 55g she can certainly make it a little longer in a 150g. She isn't cramped because she has the entire tank to herself. The only reason I put this on here was because she is really, really jumpy lately. I think alot of it is because we are hardly ever home until late of the evening and she is not use to people observing her. When we do get home and walk by the tank she goes nuts.
If anyone near Kentucky has a 220 or 240g tank for sale please PM me. For short-term needs I think a tank this size will suit her needs.
Reefer334, I would love to try her in my 380g community, but that would be one expensive trial and error snack. I know you have a queen trigger too, but trust me man, when they get as big as mine you will see what I mean, they are PURE TERRORS. This fish swallows whole pieces of shrimp bigger than some of my fish in my big tank. Another reason I won't consider it is because the tank is acrylic. The queen has put bite marks on glass, I could only imagine what she'd do to acrylic.
If anyone near Kentucky has a 220 or 240g tank for sale please PM me. For short-term needs I think a tank this size will suit her needs.
Reefer334, I would love to try her in my 380g community, but that would be one expensive trial and error snack. I know you have a queen trigger too, but trust me man, when they get as big as mine you will see what I mean, they are PURE TERRORS. This fish swallows whole pieces of shrimp bigger than some of my fish in my big tank. Another reason I won't consider it is because the tank is acrylic. The queen has put bite marks on glass, I could only imagine what she'd do to acrylic.
Wolverine
Premium Member
I don't think that anyone is questioning the care he has given this fish.
I'm guessing the last couple of posts are at least partially directed at me, so I'll try to explain a little better.
Oftentimes, if I recommend that someone not get a fish because their tank isn't big enough for it, they assume I'm full of it, for some reason. Here's a clear situation of a fish outgrowing its home, from a real member of the RC community who has been here for quite a while. So it's not just my saying that it can happen.
If people accept that, they often respond with "I know it will outgrow this tank, but I'm upgrading to a bigger tank in 'x' amount of time." I point out that, IME, those upgrades very rarely happen as scheduled, and quite often don't happen at all; exactly zero of my upgrades in the past have been on schedule, including the times I've made this mistake. Once again, people assume I'm full of it, for whatever reason. Once again, we have a real member of the RC community who has rightly recognized that the fish has outgrown his tank and that his upgrade schedule has been pushed back. AND, more importantly, was willing to come on here to discuss it and to find the fish a better home.
Since people tend not to believe me, it's nice to be able to show them that it does really happen. Doing so doesn't bring into question the care that jm has provided the animal in any way.
I think that most of the time in this situation, people get rid of the fish and just never mention to anyone that it came up. Or they keep the fish in suboptimal conditions.
Dave
mattsilvester
Team RC
Not withstanding the "actual" context of this threat, or any comments that anyone has made there in I completely agree with you on this one Dave and would back you 100% that people should not buy a fish unless they have a big enoughtank, on the ground, ready for it
With respect to this particular case, it is only fair to put it in the context that jmccown probably would not have gone out and bought this fish "new" and if he had no rescued it, it would probably now be dead, or in avery bad way indeed. That has to be noted, and commended, and it is unfortunate that jmccown cannot now follow up on his good intentions.
But it is important to note also that, when this fish was first bought upon import, it did not go into an appropriate sized home..... be it through ignorance or through the "promise" of a pending upgrade.
Some people buy fish which are very desirable, such as emporer angels, put them in a tank which they know they will outgrow, and when the time comes they sell them on to people that have big enoguh tanks..... when this is done with "eyes open", I see no harm in it, because there will always be a home waiting for a nice emporer angel, for example.
BUT - generally speaking, when I hear "I will be getting a bigger tank next year, so I think I'll grossly over stock this one, because it will be alright when I upgrade", then I am with Dave 100%. Life happens in between our hobby.... people die, get divorced, loose their jobs, have accidents, have unexpected bills to pay, or just loose interest -and that "upgrade" gets side tracked........ and it is true that in the vast majority of cases, the "upgrade" comes about a year later than expected.
Its an altogether different scenario when you are waiting on the delivery of a tank, or waiting for it to cycle, and you see a very rare fish or a realyl nice specimen.... and its gonig to be 6 weeks ot 2 months........ but generally the old war cry "I will be upgrading next year, so can I put a queen angel in a 90gal......" just gets a bit boring....... and folks like Dave end up getting it in the neck for pointing it out........
Thanks to this thread I may have found a bigger tank that I can move her to. A fellow RC'er PM'd me about a 240g tank. I'm waiting on some more information, but if this works out this will be much better for her and I'll be able to keep her. The hard part will be figuring out where to stick an 8' tank with one 8' tank and a 6' tank already in my house. God the wife is going to kill me.
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