2.5 gallon tank
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kathainbowen
New member
Yeah, I've got to laugh at that comment too, but I'm just as guilty as the person who started this thread for keeping a clownfish in too small of a tank. I started a 3G pico for Xenia, polyps, mushrooms, and possibly a pom pom crab (uber-kawaii and fascinating little guys!).
However, a well-meaning friend decided to give me a surprise present over the holidays. A wild-caught False Percula. How do I know it was wild caught? They told me where they got it from (*I politely inquired so I could discreetly "lose" the fish and return it to the LFS it came from), and I know all their clowns are wild caught. Bleh. At least, if they were going to screw me over with kindness, they could have at least gotten me a T/R clown. C'mon. We all have those friends who have hearts bigger than their heads, and I have absolutely no luck between nets and traps. I've caught my peppermint shrimp, snails, or hermits more times than I can count, but no clownfish.
However, the now affectionately dubbed "Pookie" is the best excuse to start a larger tank. =D
However, a well-meaning friend decided to give me a surprise present over the holidays. A wild-caught False Percula. How do I know it was wild caught? They told me where they got it from (*I politely inquired so I could discreetly "lose" the fish and return it to the LFS it came from), and I know all their clowns are wild caught. Bleh. At least, if they were going to screw me over with kindness, they could have at least gotten me a T/R clown. C'mon. We all have those friends who have hearts bigger than their heads, and I have absolutely no luck between nets and traps. I've caught my peppermint shrimp, snails, or hermits more times than I can count, but no clownfish.
However, the now affectionately dubbed "Pookie" is the best excuse to start a larger tank. =D
Doglover_50
Premium Member
True...put the clown in the 2.5....resistance is futile.
kathainbowen
New member
I'm not saying I recommend putting a clown in any considerably small pico like my 3G or the 2.5. I go through between 5 to 6 gallons worth of water changes every week to keep ahead of the nitrates. I'm sorry if it makes it sound like I was encouraging that. It's actually been far too much trouble for such a small fish.
I will be so unearthly thankful when the larger hex tank is done cycling.
I will be so unearthly thankful when the larger hex tank is done cycling.
Experts!!!
Experts!!!
So,are you so called experts saying that if one has a 3gallon tank with a 100 gallon sump,thats ok.
The water would be very stable,but the swimming area for the clown the same!
If so its not the size,but the care in maintaining the tank!
That goes for any size system.
Dont bash anyone,just stress the importance of water stability & how to achieve that goal.
How many of you keep your tanks at very,very low stocking levels so your captives can live a long happy life!!
Experts!!!
So,are you so called experts saying that if one has a 3gallon tank with a 100 gallon sump,thats ok.
The water would be very stable,but the swimming area for the clown the same!
If so its not the size,but the care in maintaining the tank!
That goes for any size system.
Dont bash anyone,just stress the importance of water stability & how to achieve that goal.
How many of you keep your tanks at very,very low stocking levels so your captives can live a long happy life!!
Poorcollegereef
Future Doc
2.5 gallon clown tank is like putting a tang in a 10-20 gallon tank. Sure my friend CAN drive 135mph down the interstate but does that make it acceptable? While reefs play an interresting role in our own human self satisfication, there are acceptable limits to our own environmental manipulation. Honestly, if Bascer didn't know he couldn't put an anemone in a 2.5 gallon and that he is keeping an acro under 28w then chances are they need to be slapped in the back of the hand because all he is promoting is further bad hobby practices. The life value is debatable but the actions of this individual is degrading the hobby. Please research before you do anything! While we should encourage positive criticsm and offer better solutions the complete stubboness is quite childish. I know some hobby "rules" are bendable but they cant be bent backwards and therefore some mild roasting is nessecary when faced with sheer ignorance and stubboness.
ALL PEOPLE RESEARCHING KEEPING A NANO TANK: TAKE THIS TREAD AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO!
There, I said it and I am going to go stare at my tank until I calm down.
ALL PEOPLE RESEARCHING KEEPING A NANO TANK: TAKE THIS TREAD AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO!
There, I said it and I am going to go stare at my tank until I calm down.
Kogo
In Memoriam
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9164513#post9164513 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bascerpharm4
lessthanlights- If the animals die within a week or two from now, you can go ahead and call me a fool if you want to, but if they live more than a year or so, you shut up
any updates?
Poorcollegereef
Future Doc
I compared a fish's swimming habits to another fish's swimming habits. Clowns dont need a tang's swimming space but they need more than 12"x6" which is only about .52 square feet or .29 cubic feet of swimming space. In the wild, clowns do have a range of up to a couple of meters, but rarely leave a few from their anemone. Adult anemones cant live in a 2.5g so that argument is out. At least a 10 gallon tank can give a clown 1.67 cubic feet of swimming space. I say 20 gallons is better for a clown but 10g is managable. So if 2.5g is a quarter of 10g then it is like putting a tang (depending on species), which needs a minimum of 80 gallons (in this instance) in 1/4 of an 80g tank which is 20 gallons. I am not just pulling these numbers out of a hat, they were calculated as apart of my argument
Finally there is the water quality issues and stablility isses with such a small tank size that cause poor health regardless of the swimming habits of the fish.
Really, this thread is an example of not doing proper research. I know not everyone does all the research to understand everything about the hobby, myslef included, but if enough experienced and wise people tell me it is a bad idea, I am smart enough to listen. In fact, our entire (American) culture should take this advice, it makes a better society.
Finally there is the water quality issues and stablility isses with such a small tank size that cause poor health regardless of the swimming habits of the fish.
Really, this thread is an example of not doing proper research. I know not everyone does all the research to understand everything about the hobby, myslef included, but if enough experienced and wise people tell me it is a bad idea, I am smart enough to listen. In fact, our entire (American) culture should take this advice, it makes a better society.
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Poorcollegereef
Future Doc
sorry, not trying tobe political and was in no means intended to be political. why Amercian culture?: because I don't want to speak for other cultures and I always stress self improvement. I just trying to say that listening to others with good adivce is a healthy thing that promotes a good society like that here on ReefCentral. Stubboness does not.
Rosseau, is that name from the college there or the french philosopher minus the U? And I do think the revolution will be on cnn
Rosseau, is that name from the college there or the french philosopher minus the U? And I do think the revolution will be on cnn
InvaderJim
Coral Junkie
Looks good. Love the clown and it's choice of host.
Rosseau
New member
Poorcollegereef. I wasn't meaning to aim that at you.. I agree with what you are saying, especially about culture. I've gotten reamed out a few times for talking about topics beyond reefing, as if they aren't relevant or important.
As far as the name goes.......... the boring answer is it's the name of a lake where I've spent a lot of time. Though i'm familiar with the philosopher. CNN would love to televise it.
As far as the name goes.......... the boring answer is it's the name of a lake where I've spent a lot of time. Though i'm familiar with the philosopher. CNN would love to televise it.
Get a life
Get a life
lol Im fairly new to this forum... its 3 am... I cant sleep... so i went ahead and read this entire thread... I must say you people desperately need to get a life... I bet the majority of you guys had hard ons while posting ur little angry hippy responses to this guys setup....Personally I am trying to figure out why someone would even build a 2.5 gallon tank... I know nano's are the new hot shi*.... but ***...You guys might as well cut off the top of a gatorade bottle, hang a flash light over it, slap in a baby blue powdered tang and call it a day... If this guy wants to kill a clown and waste his money than let him... But we dont have to start hugging trees and freaking out on the guy...
I am eager to read your wussy little flames some of you are about to throw at me... i bet if most of u confronted me in person spoke to me in person, ur voice would start to squeak and ur *** would pucker up like a lemon... cry me a river...
If i had a violin right now... I would play it for everyone....
Good luck on the setup man... Let me get your address so I can mail u my net to remove the clowns carcus tomorrow...
Love,
Brian
Get a life
lol Im fairly new to this forum... its 3 am... I cant sleep... so i went ahead and read this entire thread... I must say you people desperately need to get a life... I bet the majority of you guys had hard ons while posting ur little angry hippy responses to this guys setup....Personally I am trying to figure out why someone would even build a 2.5 gallon tank... I know nano's are the new hot shi*.... but ***...You guys might as well cut off the top of a gatorade bottle, hang a flash light over it, slap in a baby blue powdered tang and call it a day... If this guy wants to kill a clown and waste his money than let him... But we dont have to start hugging trees and freaking out on the guy...
I am eager to read your wussy little flames some of you are about to throw at me... i bet if most of u confronted me in person spoke to me in person, ur voice would start to squeak and ur *** would pucker up like a lemon... cry me a river...
If i had a violin right now... I would play it for everyone....
Good luck on the setup man... Let me get your address so I can mail u my net to remove the clowns carcus tomorrow...
Love,
Brian
Rosseau
New member
"Brizjuan", please go back to grade 3 grammar school, for me and everyone else who has read this.
You're getting a hard on now in anticipation of the "flame" I'm about to throw your way. Is that any worse than what has gone on so far on this thread? Nah, I don't think so.
I could put this back in your face and try and justify the importance of these discussions, but you're too far gone. Get some sleep man, it's the least you can do for yourself.
Much love, xoxo
You're getting a hard on now in anticipation of the "flame" I'm about to throw your way. Is that any worse than what has gone on so far on this thread? Nah, I don't think so.
I could put this back in your face and try and justify the importance of these discussions, but you're too far gone. Get some sleep man, it's the least you can do for yourself.
Much love, xoxo
nynex
New member
Brizjuan We dont need your Negative attitude here. Just because people care about
the animals in which they are in charge of...well keeping their tanks..doesnt make
them tree huggers. Most of the people who have responded to this post are only
trying to give this guy advice, because its only obvious he doesnt know what hes
doing. Your attitude of "well if he wants to kill a clown fish..let him"..Thats not the
attitude that people in this hobby..esp in reef keeping should have! Im sure if
someone like Robert Fenner or Julian Sprung would hear you talk like that..they
would urge you to please tear your tank down and get out of this hobby.
I know you are just trying to say "hey..why a 6 page post arguing on what this guy
should do...let him do what he wants!" But thats missing the whole point of what
this board is all about. From what ive gotten from my time here, is alot of cool people
who have awesome ideas on how to keep their tanks. This board is filled with alot of
very good advice and awesome ideas on better ways to keep our tanks. If people dont
speak up and say Hey..you are doing this or that wrong..then how are the newbies
ever gonna learn? Oh and by the way, throwing your words around saying that
people would be afraid of you is not the kinda of crap we want here...if you dont have
anything positive to contribute to this board, do me and everyone else a favor and go
away.
the animals in which they are in charge of...well keeping their tanks..doesnt make
them tree huggers. Most of the people who have responded to this post are only
trying to give this guy advice, because its only obvious he doesnt know what hes
doing. Your attitude of "well if he wants to kill a clown fish..let him"..Thats not the
attitude that people in this hobby..esp in reef keeping should have! Im sure if
someone like Robert Fenner or Julian Sprung would hear you talk like that..they
would urge you to please tear your tank down and get out of this hobby.
I know you are just trying to say "hey..why a 6 page post arguing on what this guy
should do...let him do what he wants!" But thats missing the whole point of what
this board is all about. From what ive gotten from my time here, is alot of cool people
who have awesome ideas on how to keep their tanks. This board is filled with alot of
very good advice and awesome ideas on better ways to keep our tanks. If people dont
speak up and say Hey..you are doing this or that wrong..then how are the newbies
ever gonna learn? Oh and by the way, throwing your words around saying that
people would be afraid of you is not the kinda of crap we want here...if you dont have
anything positive to contribute to this board, do me and everyone else a favor and go
away.
