200DD plumbing ?'s

E.Rude

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I am upgrading to a 200DD. Was going to go with glasscages, but their reviews are scary so I'm thinking of a Marineland. I'm running a BeanAnimal on my 125 right now and I dig it but when I upgrade I don't want the tank sitting that far from the wall. The sump will be in the cabinet and I really don't want the return plumbing running behind the tank.
What I was thinking was having the full siphon and the open channel in one overflow, and the emergency and return in the second overflow. I would put a small powerhead in the second overflow to avoid water stagnating. Would this work? Are there any other ideas on how to keep the overflows quiet and still use one of the existing holes for the return?
 
A well set up Durso can be just as quiet but doesn't provide the emergency back-up to your overflow.

Dave.M
 
A well set up Durso can be just as quiet but doesn't provide the emergency back-up to your overflow.

Dave.M

Dave, I appreciate your reply. I know the topic of dual herbies and quieting overflows has been beaten to death and I've tried to search the forums for an answer to my problem, but I'm just coming up with more questions haha.
Would you mind providing more info?
I should add that I'm going to keep the sump in the front of the stand, so there will be a short horizontal or diagonal run on both the overflows.
 
These are two separate issues: keeping the overflow silent and having a safety back-up overflow. There are several ways that aquarists have found to make overflows quiet, including: Durso, Herbie, Bean Animal, Stockman, Maggie Muffler. I am not familiar with all of them as I haven't used them all. Use Google to get more info on each.

The need for a safety overflow is debatable... until you have an overflow disaster, and then you'll wonder how you could have been stupid enough not to have one in the first place. The Herbie and Bean Animal overflow schemes both have the additional overflow(s) incorporated into their design. Look them up and study the designs. You will see that, yes, you can indeed have primary and secondary overflows in one corner and a third emergency overflow in another corner. That was your question. You could even have the primary and tertiary overflows in one corner and the secondary overflow plus return in the second corner. Or you could have a primary overflow plus return in one corner and the secondary overflow plus another return in the other corner.

Having your returns hit a 90° turn will go a long way in reducing noise, limiting the force at which water hits the sump and reducing micro-bubbles in the sump.

I believe it is better for you to study all these different options so that you understand which one you eventually choose instead of just going on someone else's say-so. Hope that helps.

Dave.M
 
Dave, thanks again for entertaining a question that's been beaten to death. I think I just needed a little help convincing myself that the marineland was the better choice, since one overflow made things easier for my plans. I am gonna go with a BeanAnimal and 90's. I'm glad you included this:

Having your returns hit a 90° turn will go a long way in reducing noise, limiting the force at which water hits the sump and reducing micro-bubbles in the sump.

Thanks again for your time!
 
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