3 fish dead in 3 days help!

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Kellyh14

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Hello well to start off the tank is 5 months old and all additions were quarantined for observation for 4 weeks ( no treatments ) kicking myself for this now but after 4 weeks of observation I added a powder blue tang to my display. (135 gallon 72x18x24) and within a week he came down with ick. Completely covered in white spots and after a couple weeks his skin appeared to be peeling off, I thought maybe he was healing. I was over feeding to hopefully help him beat it and he ate like a pig the entire time I thought he would overcome it. All other fish never had a spot and ate fine and acted normal. I woke up 2 days ago to my starry Benny (my favorite fish :(!) dead in the sandbed, with no spots. I thought that was weird and that night my powder blue after 3 weeks of battling ick but somewhat acting perfectly normal and healthy appeared to act drunk and then slowly lowered himself to the sandbed and died. I thought it was all over all other fish acting and eating normal, 0 ick spots, until I found my Midas blenny on the sandbed this morning with hermits huddled around him. I am really worried about my other fish I have 2 blacker ice clowns, 1 red velvet fairy wrasse, 1 melanarus wrasse, 2 Bangaii cardinals, 1 fire fish, and 1 chromis left in my display and a blue jaw trigger in quarantine. What should I do?????? I have 0 ammonia and nitrite and my nitrates are at 0.2, please help! Thank you I have never been through anything like this! New to fish disease!
 
Thanks for the sticky. I've read many forums and talked to my LFS and now I feel equally nervous about hypo salinity and copper. Could it really be uronema marinum when the chromis has been with everyone for 4 months? The tang with what I thought was ick (never encountered before so I'm unsure) had skin peeling but it looked almost like dead dry skin as if it was healing from previous white ick spots. No red or open looking skin on the tang. My 2 blennies that passed had 0 symptoms and 0 markings. It is very puzzling
 
Sounds like your LFS runs a low level of copper in their system. Please check with them and confirm.
 
I think I've decided to treat all with copper, and leave the display fallow or 6 weeks.... Quite unsure on how I'll catch the fire fish but I'm going to buy another qt this weekend. Could I do the trigger, the fairy, and melanarus wrasse and 2 clowns in the 30 gallon long, and the chromis, fire fish, and 2 cardinals in a 10 gallon? Or if there is a better way to divide them? Would feeding my cleaner shrimp and Rbta be enough to care for my corals and keep my biological filtration going in the display? This isn't going to be fun, thanks for anyone's imput.
 
Kellyh14 said:
Thanks for the sticky. I've read many forums and talked to my LFS and now I feel equally nervous about hypo salinity and copper. Could it really be uronema marinum when the chromis has been with everyone for 4 months? The tang with what I thought was ick (never encountered before so I'm unsure) had skin peeling but it looked almost like dead dry skin as if it was healing from previous white ick spots. No red or open looking skin on the tang. My 2 blennies that passed had 0 symptoms and 0 markings. It is very puzzling
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Uronema and brook are almost identically appearing. Absent detailed pictures, I always guess uronema when a chromis is involved and peeling skin is a symptom.
 
snorvich said:
Uronema and brook are almost identically appearing. Absent detailed pictures, I always guess uronema when a chromis is involved and peeling skin is a symptom.
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Could I have both uronema marinum and ick? Could the white spot covered tang be uronema? I wish I could have learned more from the 2 blennies as to a clue of what's going on but both looked perfectly normal and ate like their usual selves. The chromis was my first fish addition and my quarantine is same water as my display and all additions lived in the qt for a month. I thought if anything was wrong it would have showed up in qt. this hobby sure is full of surprises
 
Kellyh14 said:
Could I have both uronema marinum and ick? Could the white spot covered tang be uronema? I wish I could have learned more from the 2 blennies as to a clue of what's going on but both looked perfectly normal and ate like their usual selves. The chromis was my first fish addition and my quarantine is same water as my display and all additions lived in the qt for a month. I thought if anything was wrong it would have showed up in qt. this hobby sure is full of surprises
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Ich does not have to be visible in order to be present. However, ich does not kill quickly so based on your mortality time line it is more likely brook or uronema. Velvet also kills quickly and is consistent with your time line if your LFS runs a low level of copper in their system. There is simply insufficient information for an accurate diagnosis.
 
snorvich said:
There is simply insufficient information for an accurate diagnosis.
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Exactly why I am so puzzled but thank you this helped me as to I was only thinking there was one diagnosis in ick. I'll keep monitoring my system, hopefully there will be no further mortalities. I'll keep researching before I jump on a treatment. Thanks again
 
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Okay now my 2 clownfish look strange. the male and female both but these pictures are of the male because he is far worse. Brook or ich?? Could the tang introduce brook??? Everything went downhill after I added the powder blue 😫 hindsight for sure :(
 
I've read many threads and I can't see a difference in clowns infected with brook or ich. They look the same to me :( the clowns are acting perfectly normal. No change in swim pattern, still healthy appetite. They are like 2 little piranhas! And my 3 fish that passed never showed any behavior or appetite changes either! They never slowed down just visual appearance of the tang followed by death. The 2 blennies were a complete mystery. So far the tang and now to clowns are the only clues to what's infecting them. Someone some advice please :(
 
Marine Ich. Notice the sugar like dots. While brokylnella appears to more like decaying of skin. I say it looks more like brooklynrlla then ich to me. Does the powder blue have white dots covering him? Moonlights make them super easy to see.
 

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Thank you, that looks pretty spot on. Could my powder blue tang have introduced this and subsequently died from brook as well? After taking my 2 blennies with it? Or is this a double diagnosis? Everything was smooth sailing before introduction of the powder blue.
 
Yes powder blue had a million white dots and cloudy eyes... He had some white skin peeling from where the white spots had disappeared. He battled whatever he had for a full 4 weeks
 
Looks like the brook in the white strings hanging off the fins, but ich in the sence that they have some white speckles. No pink or redish under the peeling skin. The head of the male is starting to look pale. I'm thinking I have both? All other fish are acting normal, just going about their normal routines in the tank. I just tried to feed again and the male didn't accept the pellets, I'm going home in a little for lunch and I'll try mysis
 
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