600 gal display/900+ gal build thread in the Chicago 'burbs.

Its acrylic. Glass is just a general term :)

No, it was a monster woodworker vise. I haven't got around to mounting it under my bench yet so it was leaning up against one leg of my bench. I tapped it with my foot. It fell over, onto my foot. Its gotta weigh 120 lbs.
 
I know I know :) The real reason is that I have to be much more agressize keeping teh glass clean. I feel bad taking picks through dirty glass. So I clean the glass then realize there is a bunch of particulate in the water so I can't shoot till it settles. At that point I've become distracted with something else.

I'll do my best to take some shots tonight.

I dont know if its just me, but i dont care. it will look 'real', as anyones tank does. It makes me think of my Grandma, she cleans before the cleaners come around!!
 
Not good, i did something like that and broke my little toe, only found out a year later when i tiwist my ankle and got an X-ray
 
Its acrylic. Glass is just a general term :)

No, it was a monster woodworker vise. I haven't got around to mounting it under my bench yet so it was leaning up against one leg of my bench. I tapped it with my foot. It fell over, onto my foot. Its gotta weigh 120 lbs.

OK, generalization. :D

Oh Lordy, you're lucky you didn't destroy your foot.
 
Just a quick update since I've been so lax. I took some time off this winter and the tank has been on auto pilot pretty much. I just changed out all 24 t5 bulbs and lo and behold, my tank now looks like utter crap. some corals have gone totally pastel. Some are bleached. Some are brown.

I had bleaching on some of my corals before the change and some browning. I've cut the photo period back to 5 hours for 8 bulbs, 6 hours for 8 bulbs, 9 hours for 8 bulbs.

I was dosing vodka heavily and I think I might have gone overboard and stripped out too much. I have a bropsis outbreak I think from the spectrum shift of the light and a nutrient spike... I lost my LARGE orange diamond goby :( I also lost a few firefish. I swear its damn near impossible for me to keep firefish. I only have 2 purples and a red left.

What I've done to remedy the situation:

1) Carbon reactor has gone off line. I'll put it online once a week each month.
2) vodka dosing cut down by 1/3rd. (down to 12 ml a day)
3) Started dosing Iodine every other day.
4) Went back to weekly 50 gallon water changes. I was sloppy and was doing 50 gallons every 2 months or so.
5) Started dosing Iron every other day. My macro algae started turning a really weird light green color and was very, very thin. I think it was iron deficient.
6) Started dosing amino acids every day.
7) Started a bi weekly Oyster egg feeding about 15 minutes after lights off.
8) Turned the skimmer down to pull dry foam. I was pulling very wet skimmate in the past.

Hopefully this will start to help the situation. I scrubbed down the back wall and all algae I can reach. I scrubbed a few rocks in place that I can. The tangs are trying their mighty best to eat ALL the algae. They do pretty well but there are places where the stuff grows in a dense mat that they can't seem to rip off the rocks. There are some tumbleweeds of it on the sand mixed in. They are slowly thinning it out.

Its frustrating because the coral are starting to color back up (some) at their tips. However the micro algae is starting to color up really well also :(

Hopefully I can get the coral back to how they should be then burn the algae out.

Obviously Phosphate and Nitrate are pretty much undetectable. Po on my hanna meter reads really really close to zero. The nitrate i think is a problem. I think I went over board and started starving the coral. The damn byropisis is driving me insane though... how the hell does that stuff survive?

I burnt it out last time this happened... This outbreak is worse though. Hopefully I can get it this time too :)
 
awesome tank...love the external overflows

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How about an update & a few pictures?

I'll see what I can do this week as far as pictures go. I've burned out all of the algae I was having issues with, but I have this really nasty matting purple/red cyano that forms a symbiont bond with any algae that grows. Its weird cause I've only seen a picture of it once and it just happened to be on a rock someone had a coral on. Anyways, the stuff tried to take over my whole tank. After weeks with a wire brush and some VERY HEAVY vodka dosing (read I was walking the fine line of a constant bacterial bloom) I've beaten it back. Its still there and its ugly, but I'm winning.

However I've managed to bleach a few corals I'm sure from stripping N&P so aggressively. I still don't have that many corals in my tank as I was waiting till I had my fish stock done and a stable tank. I'm there so its time to stock some coral :)
 
Btw if I was to do this over, the biggest change I'd make is I'd use 100% live rock, instead of using 90% base rock and seeding with 5 or 10% live. What I didn't realize (even though Anthony Califo has said it over and over) is that live rock resists preditation from nuisance algal species. Base rock doesn't. I would have cured all my rock in 3 batches and dealt with the hitch-hikers. It would have been ALOT easier than dealing with the wave after wave of nuisance algae (or in my case predatory cyano) that I'm dealing with now as the base rock fights to become established.
 
The vodka can feed the cyano as well, so be careful...sometimes ending the vodka can get rid of the cyano. That said, I've been battling cyano for quite some time, if you find a way to get rid of it, let me know...I'm about to resort to red slime remover.
 
mcliffy,

The thing is I don't have a lower form of cyano. Its not a slime. Its a nasty mat with hairs. For a long long time i thought it was a algae until I did some reading and researched it.

It seems to be mostly on the base rock I put in the system and not on any of the live rock. It tried to encroach on the live before I put the spurs to it. Its nasty, nasty stuff.

The problem is with my fish load I feed heavily. If I don't dose vodka I'm afraid the growth will be more. (as N&P accumulate)

I'm going to keep trying to starve it and see what happens. Worst case I'll remove all my base rock and replace it with live in my display, although I REALLY don't want to have to do that from a PITA standpoint.

If I was to do this again, using 100% live rock in the display would have been easier than the base + seeding because of this predatory cyano. Its truly nasty stuff. Its a mat that grows 10 inch thick and the top of the mat has little hairs. Its red/purple. If you take it out and let it dry it dries green. My tangs wont touch it. Hermits will nibble on it, but not much touches it. Its very dense and you can't grab it and yank it off. A toothbrush wont take it off. The only thing I found that removes it is a stainless steel brush, and even that wont get all of it.

Oh, also, I have no cyano slime anywhere. I've never had it except for during my initial cycle, and it only lasted for a few days.
 
I havent forgotten about this thread, its just that I'm VERY actively working on my tank and don't want to take pictures.

I've had it with both my lights and the black mat like growth. So I've been actively working on both:

Light: I have a 400w Xm 15k bulb in a lumenbrite with a coralvue electronic ballast that I just wired up that I'm evaluating compared to my t5's. If I like the spread and the output I'm ordering 2 more sets to put together, along with 2 5 foot t12 artinics.

As far as the mat stuff I think I've figured it out. I went through 7 dosings of alagae fix to see what it would do to it. I also increased vodka dosing at that time huge so that I was riding the edge on bacterial bloom (white water). The idea was to kill it if it was an algae that the fix worked on then skim out whatever died off.

This somewhat worked. It killed of some symbiont algae that was living in the mat but the mat stayed healthy. The mat is a red/purple to dark purple/black.

I thought it might by an advanced form of cyano. I dosed chemi-clean and proceeded to turn my entire tank into a bubble bath :) I have some monster air stones pumping large amounts of oxygen into the tank. shut off skimmer and carbon. Didn't affect the mat at all. Did dissolve a bunch of organic sludge that had built up in my overflows after the previous algae fix die off (that I hadn't had a chance to vacuum out). I've changed 100 gallons of water and will do hopefully another 50 today and 50 tomorrow to knock the bubbling down so I can start the skimmer up.

Anyways the mat is still there. Whats interesting is that it looks healthier after the last few days... probably because I stopped dosing VSV and stoped skimming because of the chemi clean.

After some more research I think tis red/black turf algae. It only grows in high light area (My whole friggen tank) but it grows thicker on rocks that have high light and especially high flow. It seems the more I starve it the more purple/black it gets. Considering I've crossed everything off my list I think thats what it is. I've seen pictures of red/purple turf and mine looked dissimilar... until that last week when I've had the nutrient export off and the chemi-clean was probably adding more dissolved organics... now it looks more like the pictures I've seen as it gets "healthier".

I've scrubbed yards of it off the rocks with a steel wire brush but its a pita. My plan now is:

1) Get skimmer and nutrient export working.
2) Get VSV dosing up super high right to bloom levels.
3) Measure Phosphate and Nitrate and make sure they are both 0
4) Starve the bajesus out of it for an extended period of time. This might take months.
5) Feed corals so they don't die
6) Continue manual steel brushing when I can
7) Introduce some tuxedo urchins to see if they have some effect.

Its going to be slow going, but now that I'm pretty sure I have a positive ID I think I can win this :)
 
did u try NO lights for a few days..? blowing off the live rock should help loosen decaying matter in rock, u can also bag vac the dirt into the sump to remove ALL loose debris, keep ALL your filtration extra clean with lots of mechanical filtration and reduce or eliminate ALL elements and feeding....check your RO/DI unit to make sure its not adding to the issues
 
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