advice for frag tank lighting?

Fryman

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So I hate to clutter the forum since there's a lot of threads about lighting options, but not so much about frag tank lighting. I see frag tank lighting as different, because IMO even distribution is more important, and depth penetration becomes less so since the frag tanks are shallow.

I'm looking for advice on lighting options for my planned frag tank setup, which will cover an area 46" x 20". There are multiple tanks so that I can customize feeding & parameters depending on the species; i.e. SPS vs LPS vs soft coral (although whether this makes any difference remains to be seen).

I don't need much depth penetration, frags will be 6 to 12" from the water surface. I also don't think I need fancy sunrise/sunset or "lightning" features. My priorities are spectrum, spread and intensity. Cost is also a major consideration, I was thinking budget-wise under $400.

I wanted to go with a 4 or 6 bulb 48" T5 setup but the fixture alone will run me about the same as a complete LED setup. Electricity consumption of the T5s would be higher and I'd have to replace bulbs every ~9 months. It seems that T5s are actually more expensive than LED now?

So I've been trying to wade through LED options. Manufacturers like EcoTech and Kessel would be best but I'm ruling them out due to cost. I looked at Reefbreeders but they still seem too expensive. So now I'm considering 2x Phlizon 165W (~$220 total), 2 x Viparspectra 165W (~$260 total) or a single MicMol Model AA-900 or AA-1200 ($200 to $250). All of these options are available on Amazon & Fleabay.

My concern is reliability, spectrum, intensity and spread. These look like chinese-made "black boxes" to me and my experience with older black boxes is they only used one type of blue led and also tended to be too low intensity with the blue channel. People would have blue turned all the way up while white was turned way down. Also they were basically a laser beam with lots of light right under the fixture but too little light at the edges. I don't know if this has been improved.

For spectrum, the newer units claim to cover spectrum pretty well using more variety of LEDs at 380nm, 420nm, 450nm, etc. just like the big boys. The MicMol units look slick and have alot of control options (that I don't really need) but uses 0.5W LEDs. I think this would be sufficient given my low depth requirements and maybe even could have a better distribution (less of the "laser-beam effect)? It's also the cheapest option if I go with the shorter of the 2, but having one unit vs 2 means less flexibility for adjusting high and low light areas.

Any input, opinions, comments appreciated. What other factors or options should I consider?
 
I use my frag tank mostly as a place to keep frags of stuff that has grown too large in the display (that I then trade) or for new frags to more easily acclimate to my system that will ultimately go into the main display. Consequently I find it useful to have the same lighting on the frag tank as the display. If you are using the frag tank to 'flip' frags, then it matters much less.
 
What is your goal for the frag system? Grow out and frags to be traded and sold as part of your main tanks maintenance? Smaller scale coral farming? If doing this for a farming, grow out and selling corals I would suggest 250w MH supplemented with T5 or blue LED. That will give the best growth, color and coral health. If the frag tank is for supporting the main tank its best to match the lighting to the main tank.
 
Thanks for your input. The long-term purpose of the frag tank is for trades & selling/supplemental income to support the hobby.

Initially I also plan to grow out frags in the tanks testing different live food sources. I culture phyto, rotifers and copepods but I've wondered if/how much of an impact this actually makes on coral. Biologists say that wild coral gets alot of energy from plankton. In the aquarium setting I've seen great growth with regular feeding, but I've also seen great growth with no food whatsoever, so I'm not sure if I'm wasting effort by feeding the coral. So I'm going to take a bunch of identical frags and feed one set phyto, one set zooplankton and one set nothing. Watch for a few months to see if it matters.

I had not really considered MH lighting. If I found a very cheap setup used I might consider it but honestly MH seems antiquated at this point. MH used to be the gold standard and I know can grow coral. Advantages over early LED units used to be spectrum & intensity but LED now is capable of more intensity than I need (especially in a shallow tank) while having more flexibility on spectrum with lower heating issues & energy cost. At least, I'm not aware of any advantage left from MH.

I've switched to LED and for a display prefer EcoTech & Kessel. But as I said I'm not willing to spend that much $$$ on this setup so I pulled the trigger on 2x "Viparspectra" 165W units. It was only $240 shipped for the two of them.
 
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MH is still the gold standard manufacturers are trying to recreate with LED. Spectrum 95% there and quality fixtures have the intensity. Where LED is lacking is spread/coverage and blending of the light spectrum. Fixes for blendling are coming out such as diffusers but that is just a fix not a solution. Spread is addressed with multiple fixtures, supplementing with T5s or spreadingbout out the led chips across the length of the fixture but this approach amplifies the blending issues and often results in a very noticeable disco ball effect. Anyways I am sure you know all this since you are an LED user on your main display tank. My point being for culturing corals nothing is going to perform like good old MH, other than the sun of coarse.
 
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