advice needed

[leebca]

I remember you writing this. I meant more details about the dip.

How did you prepare the freshwater for the dip?

What kind of freshwater did you use?

What kind of Methylene Blue did you use? Who is it made by? Can you tell me what it says on the bottle/package as to what it contains?

Thanks.

 

[ayrton]

I used R/O water; I buffered it with "Kent Marine Buffer" raising PH to 8.3, the same of my dispay tank. Then I heated water to 28 degrees Celsius, the same of my dispay tank and then I put in the water 21 drops of 1% Methylene Blue solution (composition for 100 ml: Methylene Blue FU 1 g. - other components idrossibenzoato 0,1 g. Depured water) This solution is made by "Marco Viti Farmaceutici Spa" (Italian Chemist Company). I aerated water before and during the dip.
Lee, I afraid that the problem is the damage the parasite has caused to the gill fillaments. Hyperplasia can set in and the gill lamellae grows to where the fish can no longer gain O2 due to flow restriction.
What coul I do to save it. Is there something to save it?

Lorenzo

 

[leebca]

There were some deviations from the dip, such as aeration and how you changed the pH, but if you believe the fish's gills are damaged and no longer infected, then there is no medication you can provide. Earlier on in our thread you indicated the fish's gills were infested.

But there are some non-medication things you can do for damaged tissue:

You can make the fish more comfortable by supporting its mucous coating. Use either Pro Tech Coat Marine or StressGuard to help the fish.

You can keep the fish at 1.015 sp. gr. If you believe there is no disease present, slowly (take 5 days) raise or lower the sp. gr. to 1.015.

Another thing you can do for an injured fish is to isolate it and use an all-purpose antibiotic like NITROFURAZONE (in the product, Furan-2). Furan-2 is good in the sense it contains the above drug along with two other ingredients which will help prevent the fish from being infected.

That is all I can think of.

 

[ayrton]

Lee, here in Italy we haven't Furan-2 unfortunately but We have Nifurpirinol (in the product, Furanol), Is it okay for my fish?
Thanks a lot

Lorenzo

 

[leebca]

They aren't the same medications. The Nifurpirinol is a medication used for external fungal infections. I'm not sure it would work the same for protecting the fish with an injury, against bacterial secondary infections.

Can you search the Internet for "Nitrofurazone" and see what you might find in Italy?

Do any places in Italy sell Aquarium Pharmaceuticals, Inc. products? That is who sells/provides Furan-2.

 

[ayrton]

In Europe is forbidden this kind of antibiotics. Could I use Metrodinazole? or NeoPlex by Seachem?

 

[leebca]

Use the NeoPlex NOT the other one.

 

[ayrton]

Hi Lee,
first of all I'd like to thank for your precious advises; my clown trigger is ok now in my qt tank and its gills are normal without using any anthibiotic.
But in my dislpay tank, where water salinity is 12 ppt (sg 1.009), all my fishes, after 3 weeks of hyposalinity, show white spots that are very very little (in their dimension). I don't why these little spots are still present on my fishes? ; My refractometer is ATC and I've calibrated it with distilled water. It show my salinity at 12 ppt!!!!!!!
Do I need wait a few minutes after placing some drops of salt water on it to obtain the correct reading? What is minum salinity that fishes are able to support?
Thanks for your answer!

Lorenzo