Advice on particular fish(pairs especially) any help is appreciated

Serioussnaps

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My Copperband of 2 years decided to take a swim into a Tunze with a dreadful outcome so I am gonna stock my tank with new fish(now i only have 1 percula...about 3 inches long)

My philosophy is to keep waste and bioload to a minimum as this will be strictly SPS tank and no straying from this philosophy. Keep in mind this is a 55g tank so bioload must be payed strict attention due to the small water volume(30g sump/fuge as well) and only 1" of sand at the moment but may be BB in the near future

The fish in question and consideration are all small and alot of them can be paired------

here are my choices:

Neon Goby/ Gobiosoma oceanops ---- this can be paired but i wonder about the possibility and aggression.between them and other fish...also does anyone know where i can buy these already mated...they will spawn in tank..how do they get along with other gobies???

Blackray and Whiteray shrimp goby/stonogobiops nematodes and stonogobiops sp. respectfully-----------this can maintain a symbiotic relationship with pistol shrimp....do they need a sandbed??i am thinking about Barebottom....also, they can be mated pair with or without shrimp as well....where would i find the pairs / symbionts that are already established?????How do they get along with other gobies??will they establish a pair if i just simultaneosly introduce 2 of them

False perc----already have one....If i put a smaller one in i think they will pair up over time...but the smaller could get bullied but i doubt it will be severe...this pertains to...How would a clown pair be around a pair of gobies????in a 55 g tank remember that and no anemone!

Randall's shrimp goby/Amblyeleotris randalli------this supposedly can be kept with other shrimp gobies....would it get along with blackray/white ray shrimp goby and would the two still host a relationship with a pistol shrimp together??? how about 2/ pair of randall gobies???would it work?? Does it need a sandbed as well??? simultaneous intro of 2=pairing up???

yellow assessor/assessor flavissimus----------are these fish bad jumpers???? would it be possible to keep a pair or aggregation in a 55g???? how would the pair get along with other fish in a 55 if possible to even maintain the pair and without jumping(i WONT cover the tank)

Royal Gramma/gramma loreto-----is it possible to keep aggregations 2-5 individuals in a 55g????? how would this fair with other fish(possible with pair of gobies or pair of clowns???)

Orchid dottyback/pseudochromids fridmani-----ok...dottybacks i know are fairly aggressive but this one is "supposedly" very docile...what are your experiences with them around other orchids and other fish/fish pairs? remember 55 g here....i know it will pester gobies so that question is settled...but can i keep say 3 or 4 over the long run???if i put say 4 in the tank simultaneosly that arent necessarily paired up or formed their hierarchy do you think they will work it out and establish a harem/ pair situation???

What are your experiences with any or all of these fish??? What are the possible combinations?????

All your help is appreciated....this is a long initial post but i want to define what it is i want to know..thank you!!!
 
I've not had any great luck with any pseudocromis/dottyback: they're aggro and darned clever at getting around to a flank attack.

The stonogobiops are burrowers, par excellence. I don't know that they would thrive in a bb setup. But get a pair. They function well that way. They are very shy fish [with their coloring, you could bet] and will retreat from any aggression. I would not put them in with a dottyback: a firefish is almost too much for them.

Neon gobies: one per hundred gallons. They can make a real pest of themselves with other fish.

The general run of prawn gobies: easy keepers and sensible fish that don't like aggression, but that put up a pretty good bluff themselves.
HTH
 
get a goby pair (either neon or randalls), and the assessor pair (they dont jump) they sit under overhangs and such and swim upside down. Really cool fish. I had 5 at once and all got along fine (get them small or 1 small and one large)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8047816#post8047816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zemuron114
get a goby pair (either neon or randalls), and the assessor pair (they dont jump) they sit under overhangs and such and swim upside down. Really cool fish. I had 5 at once and all got along fine (get them small or 1 small and one large)

why do you say this?

why should i get a goby pair and the assessor pair? what are the reasons?

are you saying I should get both pairs and they will get along?

someone else has contradicted saying neons---1 per 100 G's

What is YOUR experience with the Randall's??

it doesnt help much to just say get this get that and really cool....i know its really cool or i wouldnt consider getting it.

I appreciate it anyways.
 
lol sorry i was vague...

in a 55 you could pair up neons but it may be difficult... but like any tank, if they aren't a pair one will kill the other (as long as it isn't a huge tank) I had 2 in a 10 gallon and the bigger killed the smaller. However, my LFS has a pair in his 20 gallon.. so it can be done.
I just like randalls. LFS has them all the time and i have to resist everytime i go in!

i brought in some yellow assessors from Aus. and just really like them. they are such a hardy fish and are really fun to watch. they stay small as well which is good.

if you do a randalls pair and a yellow/blue assessor (i prefer yellow they are out in the open more) trio, that would be easily doable and with no fighting.

:)
 
Gracias......

I read the blue assessor is less aggressive on another site so maybe that is an option....

anyone try the randall's with a pistol shrimp???

Anyone out there try an aggregation of 3-5 G. loreto/ royal gramma???
 
the blue assessor is less aggressive, however they dont do much. They spend most of their time out of sight.

you would need a larger tank for 3-5 grammas i would think... That would be a neat little harem though. What about fairy/flasher wrasses?
 
thought about the flashers but they jump an awful lot and i wont cover the top of my tank the least bit....also they are pod munchers...i am going without pod munchers for right now but mainly because they are jumpers

i figured the gramma thing wont work....maybe if that is the only thing in the tank..

i really want something to spawn

What has anyone that is small and doesnt jump...spawn in their aquarium??? Dont say mandarins...it aint happening!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8049128#post8049128 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps

i really want something to spawn

What has anyone that is small and doesnt jump...spawn in their aquarium??? Dont say mandarins...it aint happening!

My snails have spawned, and I`m not afraid of them jumping!:D

Sorry, just couldn`t resist.

Some I may try in my tank are a pair HiFin Shrimp Goby,
3-4 Barred Dartfish,
maybe 1 male,2 female Longfin fairy Wrasse.
 
Oh by the way, I have 2(definitely not a pair) Neon Gobies, you can bet they won`t be spawning. Just hoping they get along better.
 
most goby pairs will spawn.. neons spawn all the time if you can find a pair BUT they eat pods.. i dont feed mine to much and hes always fat and i see him eating them... Most fish will indeed eat pods.
 
I have axed the neon goby.

Thinking about randall's and whiteray shrimp goby...both with a pistol shrimp or both pairs. Also the assessor is still up for debate(or multiple assessors.)


Which of these two fish is less likely to jump???

Would either survive in a barebottom system???

Who has more than one assessor in a smaller tank??? ie 40 G-90G tanks??
 
Hmmm. In operations research there is a tool called linear programming which allows you to constrain solutions in many ways concurrently. With enough constraints there is often no solution.
 
Re: Advice on particular fish(pairs especially) any help is appreciated

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8046250#post8046250 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
My philosophy is to keep waste and bioload to a minimum as this will be strictly SPS tank and no straying from this philosophy. Keep in mind this is a 55g tank so bioload must be payed strict attention due to the small water volume(30g sump/fuge as well) and only 1" of sand at the moment but may be BB in the near future

No flaming, no offense just personal oppinion:

Then don't keep any fish at all. You will end up with hungry fish which are almost on the limit. Unfortunately this keepers attitude is still very common in the US. But I don't get why as the technical development shows no need for minimal feeding. Specially the Stonogibius shrimps will need a lot food and that requently.
 
I'd do the fridmani pair. They will add lots of color and activity to you otherwise fishless tank.

I'd consider another perc as well.
 
got a small perc...thats it....as you say....was too many constraints....cant be jumpers...cant be hogs....cant have alot of bioload....have to be small...

so many constraints lead me to just add a very small perc and they have virtually paired up already in 24 hours...

they are not a "pair' but the way they are acting they will be in due time....


thanks for all your posts....besides the one about my "unfortunate" attitude that was generalized to have roots deep in the US section of the hobby......Eurotrash!!!!!just kidding....

"not to be flaming," but just personal "oppinion
 
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