any one ever heard of this???

[LFS_worker]

when buying a wild acropora colony :
1) pick it up for your vender
1) frag it
2) then acclimate it to your tank?

someone told me this is what alot of people are doing ... Seems like one of the worst things you can possibly do.

LMK and why people are doing this????

BAFFLED
Brian

 

[kzoo]

It is already stressed from the move, good time. If your tank and LFS are setup right dont see a problem.

 

[twon8]

they often get to the store broken in the box, with at least a few frags per bag.

I;ve only bought one wild acro, and its intact; but i don't acclimate

but if you plan on fragging it anytime in the next few months might as well get it over with so it can settle in and start to grow.

 

[Pyrrhus]

To make sure that you dont lose the whole thing in an RTN event.

 

[NuclearReefs]

When I worked in a LFS 7 years ago .. When I got Nice WIld colonies from Solomon or Fiji in i ALWAYS fragged a few pieces off of them ..

Several reasons.. Placement in the Display

One for me, One of these for me,, one of those...

In case the mother colony didnt acclimate well...

Placement in the system we had was VERY large and it was cool to color the same species up as frags in different locations..

 

[LFS_worker]

Seems careless to me ... sounds like you'd be opening it up to infection . Then if it doesnt heal then you may have an algae problem growing on a nice acro.

I dont even touch wild colonies for 3 or 4 months with my bare hands as IMHO it increases likelyhood that they will not do well.

Thanks keep the ideas coming.
Brian

 

[LFS_worker]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8166939#post8166939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kzoo
It is already stressed from the move, good time. If your tank and LFS are setup right dont see a problem.

So I should stress all of my acro's then frag them??

B

 

[clkwrk]

Seen it done for years and I do it with my wilds everytime. Taking a simple frag off is not going to stress the whole coral. If that was the case all the corals in the wild would be stressed most of the time .

 

[twon8]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8169187#post8169187 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LFS_worker
So I should stress all of my acro's then frag them??

B

he meant since they are already stressed from transit, might as well frag it then, rather than stressing it again in few weeks by pulling it out of the water to frag

and anytime you frag a coral you are stressing it; the amount varies.

 

[LFS_worker]

doesnt it seem careless to frag a stressed coral? I can understand that if RTN is happening then frag and try to save as much as you can but a brand new wild colony ???

Brian

 

[oddballs]

gotta agree w nuclear when we get colonies in we usually take at least 2 smaller frags in case something happens to momma.i love to see the compared corals under halides and vhos !as stated lots of corals frag themselves during transit and dont seem anyworse or better than those who dont have small or lg branch break during transit.

 

[Frankysreef]

good idea for wilds... The main colony is usually used to more flow than is provided... and harder to acclimate.

They sometimes rtn anyway, so fraggin once piece or two isnt a bad thing,..

 

[blstravler]

I agree with NuclearReefs, my LFS does the same thing.

 

[fijiblue]

The point is every colony grows to it's surroundings, which we all know can be very specific conditions. When you get a wild piece, it has already grown to specific conditions. To replicate this in an aquarium is hit or miss. Frags will grow to a new surrounding much easier than an already existing wild colony.

If you wait until it is RTN'ing, 9 out of 10 times on a wild it is too late. JMHO

I agree it is a good idea to frag a few off just in case.

 

[MiddletonMark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8169720#post8169720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
Taking a simple frag off

IMO is a big difference than hacking the thing into many frags.

I'd likely go with taking a single frag off, to possibly preserve that individual coral morph in case something happens to the mother colony. Have done it myself.

But fragging to ,many pieces seems like stress IMO, and my personal least favorite kind of `frag' [wild ocean coral].

Or so my opinion goes.

 

[Serioussnaps]

well...this makes me leary of LFS/online vendors who get large wild colonies and frag off tons of peices and then try to sell them as aquacultured frags...can anyone say scandanlous????

 

[Norwood IND]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8175326#post8175326 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
well...this makes me leary of LFS/online vendors who get large wild colonies and frag off tons of peices and then try to sell them as aquacultured frags...can anyone say scandanlous????

It probably happens more often than we think...

 

[Frankysreef]

That is why with the aquacultured you should always see some kind of growth at the base.

But I know people that do this frequently...

The best frags are from local reefers from colonies that are growing in aquaria...

Wild frags are a hit or miss... that is why they are soo cheap.

 

[MiddletonMark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8175326#post8175326 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
well...this makes me leary of LFS/online vendors who get large wild colonies and frag off tons of peices and then try to sell them as aquacultured frags...can anyone say scandanlous????

It's called a chop-shop.

And IMO, it's a good indicator of whether I'd like to do business with such a place.

In my book, aquacultured means the whole frag itself grew in aquaria, not just that it encrusted in an aquarium.